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Monday, 3 February 2014


This is the speech that I didn’t get to make when I went to Kings College School, Wimbledon. How do you think it would have gone down?


Ladies and gentlemen the title of my speech today is :- The World’s Oldest Nation State – England.

One issue which we should try to avoid getting confused about is the fact that there may often be a great difference between the fact of a State (albeit often confusingly called a Nation State) and the idea of a Nation.

The State is of course at root simply a state structure with a constitution and systems of control and enforcement and, if it is an effective state, a monopoly of the legitimate use of force.

Whereas a Nation on the other hand is a community in one real sense and is based upon national feeling. So we could say that a Nation is a product of national identity, or as Left-wing academics would refer to it, a Nation is an “Imagined Community”.

The people of a Nation have a subjective sense of national identity as being a member of their own wider national community. They may have in their minds many objective criteria which they will apply in deciding whether an individual is a member or not. This will depend on the peculiar ideas of that particular Nation, e.g. the idea of Americanism or self-identifying as being an American which has different characteristics to Frenchism or self-identifying as being French.

It is instructive to make a contrast between Ghana and Malaysia, both countries that became independent more or less at the same time, geographically both are of a similar size, both had similar sized population and both are even similarly near the Equator. However it is only Malaysia, with its strong emphasis on Malay nationalism, that has managed to make the leap into becoming a largely developed country. My point is that nationalism can be a key determinate of the success or failure of a State.

How does all this matter in modern Britain or for the future of England?

Well first let us get some terms clear and then things may come more into focus:-

Britain was originally the name of the Roman province which included Wales and mostly went up only to Hadrian’s Wall and never included all of Scotland or any of Ireland.

“England” is arguably the oldest Nation State on earth. The idea of the English Nation is first mentioned in literature by the Venerable Bede in about 731 who may well have invented the concept to try and bring together the disparate tribes of Jutes, Angles and Saxons which had coalesced into the seven kingdoms of the Heptarchy in what is now England and which would probably have never come together as a single State.

Ladies and gentlemen it is often claimed that all nationalisms arise in response to a threat. In the case of England and the English Nation that threat was the Vikings and our great founder is Alfred the Great, who after his memorable burning of cakes when he was a fugitive and the last serving Anglo Saxon King, came back to win the decisive Battle of Edington against the Viking host in 878.

Alfred then launched his Wessex Kingdom on a mission to create a new Kingdom of the Angelcynn with his burhs, or boroughs, and civic freedoms, reforms of the army, putting village life on the war production footing of the early medieval open field system (a system which continued right up until the Black Death); his encouragement of reading and writing in English; his translation of the Bible into English; his strongly Roman Catholic Christian mission. Alfred’s policies were crowned with ultimate success by his grandson Athelstan on the 12th July 927 at the Council of Eamont when the then new State, England, was unified into a single kingdom on more or less its current borders.

Ladies and gentlemen just compare that length of history with the creation of a united Germany in 1871, or a united Italy in 1863, by contrast we English have a united national history of 1086 years.

In all those years since then England was never divided nor separated into warring States and so therefore the English Nation has the deepest roots of all European nations.

The only Nation State in the world that has an equivalent claim is that of China, but I would question whether China isn’t an Empire rather than a Nation, given its over 200 spoken languages. Also it has had several periods of division and warring states since it was united under the first Emperor.

Another term which we need to define is that of Great Britain. In 1603 there was the Union of the Crowns with the accession of James I of England, who was also the VI James of Scotland, but despite James’ best efforts there was no union of England and Scotland.

In 1707 the increasingly successful English State and Nation entered into a partial union with the Kingdom of Scotland, which was then in deep financial trouble after its unsuccessful colonial adventure in middle America. The Darian adventure was a sort of Scottish South Sea Bubble where there was a speculative boom which bankrupted much of Scotland’s elite and the Scottish state. The Scots at the time had a different Act of Succession so it was feared that on the death of Queen Anne, the last Stuart monarch there would be an end to the Union of the Crowns. The English threatened to end Scottish trading access to English markets under the Aliens Act and eventually a sordid deal was done, in what is now a public toilet in Edinburgh, which meant that members of the Scottish elite would be bribed with English taxpayers’ money and a partial union would be created by the union of the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England into the newly coined “United Kingdom of Great Britain”. That is the origin of the term Great Britain.

The purpose of this Union of Great Britain was nakedly about big power, real-politique and imperialist aspirations, coupled with the struggle for imperial dominance and world power against in particular the absolutist Catholic monarchy of France there was also a strong element of Protestantism at its foundation.

We then move onto considering the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland which was created in the last great struggle with France, this time in the Napoleonic wars, and led to another partial union with the Kingdom of Ireland in 1801. In this case it didn’t even create a customs union or economic free trade zone between Great Britain and Ireland. When the Union with Ireland largely collapsed in 1922, not only was the modern Conservative party formed and its 1922 Committee, but also there was yet another permutation of the Union state, with its new and current title, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

The next term we need to consider is Devolution. In 1998 New Labour enacted, following strong success in their Scottish referendum and very marginal success in the Welsh referendum, Devolution in Scotland and in Wales. These devolutions were different from each other and both began a process whose destination it seems to me can only naturally be the end of the UK.

In Northern Ireland of course there is a special case arising from the peace agreement.

For me as an English Nationalist a key factor to take account of in considering devolution is of course that there was to be no national devolution for England. On the contrary the only attempt to devolve in England was an attempt to break England up into EU inspired Regions.

This gives us another term – Regionalisation. This was a policy first pursued by the John Major government following Maastricht, but most enthusiastically pursued in office by new Labour. The attempt to break England up led to a spectacular failure to get any democratic mandate for regionalisation in an area which Labour had created by gerrymandering the so called “Region” of the “North East”. Here devolution was defeated by a full 79% of the electorate of the “North East” in 2004. There is no coincidence that the so called “North East” is one the areas which has the strongest English National Identity (80.5% in the 2011 Census).

Ladies and gentlemen this year on the 19th September 2014 we have the possibility of another great change to the Union, perhaps its very dissolution if Scotland votes, and I think it may well, for Independence.

You may ask how does this cause the dissolution of the UK? Well I have partly answered this question already, but going back again to history to help to show how that applies to our constitutional law, the Union of the Crowns of England and Ireland took place in the Middle Ages but in 1536 the principality of Wales, which historically had never coalesced into a long-lasting single sovereign state, was incorporated by an Act of Union but this union was a full incorporation of the principality into the Kingdom of England. This got MPs for Welsh constituencies sitting in the English House of Commons. Wales was integrated into English law and included in the English Judicial Assize Circuits and also had established the Church of England in Wales.

In 1603 as I mentioned there was the Union of the Crowns of Scotland and England.

In 1707 the Union of the Scottish and English parliaments let some Scottish Lords sit in with the English Lords and some Scottish MPs sit in what had been the English Commons but there was and never has been any union of the Scottish and English churches or of the two legal systems.

In 1801 there was the Union of the United Kingdom of Great Britain’s Parliament with the Irish Parliament but no customs union, nor a union of legal systems but the Church of Ireland was Anglican and Episcopalian. Bear in mind however that this further Act of Union in 1801 is grafted onto the foundation of the United Kingdom of Great Britain brought about expressly in the 1707 Act of Union by the merger of the Kingdoms of Scotland and England into that new United Kingdom of Great Britain.

Therefore it follows logically and legally that if Scotland secedes then the United Kingdom of Great Britain is ipso facto dissolved and so is the subsequent Irish Union as that was with that United Kingdom of Great Britain. The Northern Irish rump of the 1801 Union would then no longer have any constitutional entity to be attached to.

So in late 2014 the British Establishment politicians may have to scrabble about to cobble together a new Union, but if Scotland goes then the Union of Great Britain is dissolved from any sensible constitutional and legal perspective.

In the maelstrom of negotiations that will inevitably arise if Scotland votes to go I would ask everyone here to search carefully for an answer to this question. Who then will speak for England?

One contender might be Mr Cameron is the British Prime Minister. He is a man who is on record as having promised to fight “little Englanders” wherever he finds them and he asserted to the BBC’s Andrew Marr that he would keep the colossal over subsidy for Scotland going, despite being the MP of an English constituency, because he said, and I quote “I am a Cameron and there is quite a lot of Scottish blood following in these veins”. Is that, ladies and gentlemen a race point or what? So will it be Dave Donald Cameron that speaks for England?

Or would it be the Dutch/Russian Nick Clegg, or the Ed Miliband whose Marxist father fled here from the Nazis and who ungratefully seems to have wished us to lose both the Second World War and later the Cold War?

No, Ladies and gentlemen, none of them care a damn for England. Indeed all three have already been trying to break up England with their parties’ respective Regionalisation policies.

Is it a coincidence I wonder that this is the very England that Karl Marx mourned was the “rock upon which all the revolutions of Europe” were “wrecked” upon?

I have mentioned the term “Regionalisation”. The policy of Regionalisation is the British Establishment vision for England’s future. It was introduced by the Conservatives, to break us up into EU Regions. Regionalisation was enthusiastically pursued by Labour, and whose purpose was said by Charles Kennedy when he was the Leader of the Liberal Democrats saying that he enthusiastically supported Regionalisation for England it because he said – and I quote - “it was calling into question the very idea of England itself”.

It is in this sense that the new post-colonial Britishness, having lost its Empire and collapsed its power and nearly exhausted its credit over the last 100 years, is now a threat to our English Nation – an English Nation which some commentators have pointed out recently is now the last British colonial possession - the last part of the world directly ruled as it is by the British State. As Jeremy Paxman said England is now something of a “Scottish Raj” – where is an English Mahatma Gandhi when you want one?

Our former Colonial Master or should I say “Dear Leader”, Gordon Brown, went so far as to talk of the “Nations and Regions of Britain” with England called the “Regions”. He restructured the English national curriculum to ensure Britishness classes were given to English children, whereas the devolved governments of Scotland and Wales of course teach their own children the value of their own nations. This is all part of a wider effort to propagandise English people into accepting the dissolution of the English Nation and the use of our resources to unfairly subsidise Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland under what is known as the Barnett Formula.

In early 2009 a cross party committee of the House of Lords reported that the Barnett formula subsidy to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland was running to the tune of £49bn a year. That is right ladies and gentlemen, £49bn a year - almost half the entire UK budget deficit!

The good news though, ladies and gentlemen, if you are English, is that the English are awakening. Consider the results of the Labour supporting Think Tank,

JULY 2013 IPPR Report called


The IPPR is a Labour supporting “think tank” and was one of cheerleaders for the Labour Government’s attempt to break England up into regions. They are still trying and their latest scheme is for a Northern Parliament. So this is by no means a report from our friends and the report’s authors include not one single English patriot. The results are therefore all the more striking! Here are all the important extracts:-

The level of British identity recorded was the lowest in any survey reported here (going back to 1996).

Only 10 per cent of respondents claim to be ‘more British than English’. In this sense there was no discernible post-Olympics ‘Britishness bounce’.

58 per cent agree that the English have ‘become more aware of English national identity in recent years’.

There is one significant exception – in the strength of English national identification. That exception was London. In the dual capital of England and the United Kingdom, while English national identity remains the most popular choice, Englishness was notably weaker than elsewhere and Britishness rather stronger.

That fully 40 per cent of people in England would, if given the opportunity, choose an English passport is striking, especially given the complete absence of any public debate around English citizenship.

Across all age-groups, social classes and both genders Englishness is stronger than Britishness. The one important exception concerns members of England’s ethnic minorities.

The responses confirm:
• low and decreasing support for the status quo
• very low support for English regionalism
• strong support for a form of governance that treats England as a distinct political unit
• continuing lack of consensus about which English option is appropriate.

It confirms low support for the territorial status quo, at 22 per cent.

Euroscepticism is also clearly associated with a demand for greater recognition for England in the UK’s own constitutional arrangements.

Also and in many ways even more definitively the 2011 Census returns also show Englishness rising:-

England has over 32 million (32,007,983) people (or 60.4%) who have stated they have only English National Identity. A further 4.8 million (4,820,181) people (or 9.1%) stated that their National Identity is ‘English and British.

In sharp contrast with this nearly 70% being English there were only a mere 10 million (10,171,834) people or (19.2%) who claimed to be ‘British only’. A substantial proportion of these ‘British Only’ appear, from cross referencing with the results of the Census ethnicity question, to be of non-English ethnicity (ie Scottish, Welsh or Irish).

On the question of demand for English Independence there is also increasing rapidly in England and although reactive to the movement for Scottish Independence it is not dependent on it. The June 2011 ComRes survey done for the BBC showed that then there was 36% support for England to be a fully independent Country irrespective of the result of the Scottish Independence Referendum.

And now ladies and gentlemen there is also for the first time in all our long history a fully-fledged albeit as yet small (with about 3,000 members) political party calling for Independence for England. That Party, ladies and gentlemen, is the English Democrats.

One of the key aspirations of English nationalism that will have instant appeal here, it is the demand to get England out of the EU. This is an aspiration which seems to be contrary to the majority feeling in Scotland and Wales.

One of the interesting things is that the IPPR’s research shows that the National Identity which is most Europhile is in fact people who identified themselves as being British!

So, ladies and gentlemen, finally I suggest we take the EU Justice Commissioner and indeed Senor Barroso himself at their words. They have repeatedly said that if Scotland leaves the UK that as a new State which not a signatory to the EU accession treaties, Scotland would be automatically out of the EU. They went on to say that Scotland would then have to re-apply to re-join!

Ladies and gentlemen, that means that if England leaves the UK we would be automatically out of the EU too! Is there anyone here who is so Britishly Europhile that they would want to take Mr Barroso’s advice and apply to re-join the EU?

Thanks you Mr Chairman and ladies and gentlemen for your patience.


  1. For every £200 the government spends elsewhere in England, £5,000 is spent in multi-ethnic London.
    Even the Barnett formula is small beer compared to that imbalance

  2. Our politicised police have been at it again. I stopped at a mobile burger bar today as he was flying two, albeit small, English flags. He used to fly a large flag on a pole. It seems the police have tried to stop him on the basis that they are 'offensive', but he refused. They backed off, but it seems to me a clear case of intimidation. I gave him some of our leaflets.

    I'd like to find the piece which I think has appeared here which I think has described that an offence has been committed if we feel our identity or our person has been insulted because of our ethnicity, which could apply here. I'd like to give him the information should the police try it again, as I'd like to give him the confidence to fly the big flag again.

    1. Get him to ring me. I will advise him on his rights to compensation!

    2. Thanks Robin.

  3. Why was the above speech not delivered?

    1. Sorry Clive. I haven't made myself clear. As I explained in the previous item I ran out of time partly as a result of all the enthusiastic questioning.

  4. I wonder who else saw Hugh Fernley-Whittingstall in Sweden on Sunday evening. What came across was how the Swedish model had been replaced by the American model. The Swedish model was one common to all countries of Northern Europe and a product of the harch climate. It was based on democracy, altruism and a fair degree of equality. It was the model that was brought to Britain by our Anglo-Saxon and Viking forebears and brought us our democracy, cohesion and altruism. Volunteeering is a very English and North European thing - so different from the French; but is now under threat as England becomes less and less Anglo-Saxon and more and more like the third world. The American model seems to be the French Revolution's legacy of civic nationalism or multiculturalism coupled with the lust for money; the only glue that holds America together.

    Now Sweden has its nouveaux riches and the greatest gap between rich and poor ever. But the ethnic Swedes still trust one another as we cohesive ethnic English used to do. Multiculturalism will alter all that as the first victim of diversity has been shown to be trust. The only glue that will hold multicultural England together will be greed. This is why those from the Indian Sub-continent are so welcomed by those who share their philosophy. India is totally lacking in altruism and money is the ultimate goal.

    Hugh also visited the Stockholm suburb of Husby where there were days of rioting last year after an immigrant was shot dead by police. This sounds just like multicultural Britain and America. Integration is not happening. Those of us who watched Wallander know that there are actors of Balkan and some of Arab origin but they are very few. Muslims and blacks are not being integrated into what was such a homogeneous society with such a strong sense of national identity. Of course those who state the obvious are just dismissed as Nazis there as elsewhere by the left- wingers.

    Watching the programme I thought that Sweden might be somewhere to go as a refugee as England is stolen from us, as there is plenty of space to get lost in. But I know I would be homesick for England. But as it is I am already homesick. Many of us want to go home to England but it is an England which as Charles Moore has said, is being wiped off the face of the earth. This is a crime against humanity and will effect all white countries, from Sweden to England and elsewhere. As in America we are all reaching a tipping point, a point of no return, unless something happens. The North European model will be lost as the whole world becomes like the third world. Civilisations end but this is not the story of a civilisation but civilisation full stop, as witnessed here and in Sweden.

  5. Is your party policy now really independence for England or is it a tactic to achieve home rule? If you support separation then you need to change your manifesto on the website to reflect this as at present it only suggests you are in favour of a devolved parliament. Personally, I could support devolution for England but not independence. I did vote for you once for the Police elections. Your economic policy is much more balanced and sensible than UKIP's is and in this is one way I would hope you gained more support than them as they are simply an ultra-Thatcherite Tory Party so shouldn't be as high in the polls as they are.

    1. I think we have to be prepared for a "no" vote in Scotland. Cameron is at it again frightening and blackmailing the Scots. If they vote against independence then it will be very difficult to get an English independence referendum off the ground. The only hope then would be an English parliament and devolved government in a place that is still quintessentially English. That would rule out London which is now a "world city". Gordon Brown wanted to turn it into New York and he has succeeded. Now he has buggered off to New York and left his vile legacy behind. Birmingham is next to go, becoming a majority Asian city and not European at all. I have just read that Enoch Powell was opposed to the multicultural American model as he saw it is being riven by divisions and friction and violence. How right he was and how I long for the ethnically and culturally diverse of the Europe of nation states of 50 years ago. We are all doomed to a world where each nation may have an ethnically diverse population but where each is the same i.e. another hateful, culturally bereft America.

      Russia Today tells us that the French have given up on integration. A law is being passed revoking the ban on the veil and letting each community do its own thing and giving France and Arab slant. One speaker said this is contrary to the ethos of the Republic and another said it is turning France into another America, exactly. This is the America that is destined to collapse once white minority status is achieved in 20 plus years.
      Cuckoos in nests springs to mind.

      We also learnt that 350 Al Qaeda trained "British" terrorists are on their way back here from Syria with a plan to blow us to smithereens and have opened a page on Facebook for that purpose. Well, Enoch, what say you? The Brum you wished to preserve is now a mirror-image of the India that you loved but did not want here and a jihadist terrorist base.

      I wish the likes of Gordon Brown well in America although I wonder what has happened to the job he is meant to be doing at Westminster. I hope he stays there and keeps his mouth shut about England and bigotry and finding the former counties of Cumberland and Westmorland sickeningly white. He will be pleased to learn that that is now changing. Of course Enoch was right and everybody knew that at the time and most still now it. He was right for England, France, Holland, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and nearly every other country in Western Europe.

      Interested to hear that Christine Lagarde of the IMF was talking about the gap between rich and poor in all western countries now. This has been achieved through the destruction of homogeneity and cohesion and the creation of rootless individuals where nations could not gang up to oppose it.
      These people knew exactly what they were doing and they got so-called Socialists like Brown and Blair and their earlier incarnations to do their dirty work for them.

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