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Wednesday, 2 July 2014



The London 'newspaper', the Evening Standard, recently announced that it is supporting the unfunny Leftist 'comedian' Eddie Izzard to be the next Mayor of London for Labour. So much for their editorial team's commonsense - clearly a JOKE! But what about their BIAS?

I recently put out this:-

“Scottish Independence: London and Scotland need each other” Debate - June 30 in London's Guild Hall London Evening Standard | Scotland

"So do London and Scotland need each other in a Union, or will both manage just fine if Scotland votes for independence? That is the topic for a major public debate, jointly hosted by the Evening Standard and the City of London at Guildhall. Leading public figures taking part as panellists (sic) include:-" NOT ONE SINGLE ENGLISHMAN OR ENGLISHWOMAN!

Parody and/or Propaganda? Bias and/or B.......?"

As ever with the usual Media/Political Class arrogance the event went ahead unchanged and the CEP staged a very effective demonstration as reported here:-

Three members of the Campaign team for the CEP attended the Evening Standard Scottish Independence event in London on Monday night (30 June 2014) where six Scottish speakers (three Brit Scots and three Nationalist Scots) debated the relationship between England and Scotland. Not one clearly defined English voice was included on the debating panel. We highlighted the incongruity of a debate where only one side is represented.

Just imagine if six Englishman went to Edinburgh to debate Scotland's relationship with England and suggested that Scotland could be better governed by breaking her up into smaller pieces, or regionalised. There would be outrage and rightly so. As such the debate was biased and missed several obvious points. To show how this debate failed the people of England we stood with a huge St George cross, mounted on a 10ft pole at the back of the Guildhall where the event was held and stuck tape over our mouths. We were mentioned by the debating panel no less than three times but still we were otherwise ignored.

We have attempted to contact the Evening Standard's editor, both before and after the event but currently we have been met with silence. Maybe it’s the silence of the guilty. IF NOT IT SHOULD BE!

I was asked to comment by the Evening Standard and did so as follows:-

All English Nationalists should join the English Democrats in supporting a YES vote in Scotland on the 18th September because it will trigger the dissolution of the United Kingdom. Since the end of the era great power politics, the UK has been a persistent drag on the English Nation.

The United Kingdom State is expensive, incompetently authoritarian and vain-gloriously addicted to its great power status whilst draining the wealth of England with its debts, its vanity projects, its international interventionism and its failure to focus on the best interests of the English Nation.

For the mathematically minded, the UK’s dissolution can be put as a formula:- E + S = GB therefore GB – S = E.

As the EU Commission has regularly confirmed it is only the UK which is a member of the EU. This means dissolution of the UK means that we are also all automatically out of the EU. Also the debts are those of the UK and not England or Scotland. So the English Nation will get independence not only from the UK and from its debts but also from the EU in one easy step.

The UK failure to operate in the best interests of English people is easily shown by the extra £10,000 it spends on the average Scottish family.

If this extra money tempts Scots to vote NO then all the so called Unionist Parties are promising them yet further Devolution so all the unfairness and discrimination against the English Nation will quickly get far worse.

So come on Scotland vote YES on the 18th September and give us all a fresh start as friendly neighbours outside the UK and its debts and outside of the EU!

Here is the Standard's report. Not only no mention of the CEP or the lack of an English voice but also an emasculated version of my comment at the end. So never mind Greeks bearing Gifts - watch out for the Standard telling tall tales!

Scottish Independence: England must send 'love letter' north of the border

David Churchill      Published: 01 July 2014

England needs to send a “love letter” to Scotland if it wants to save the marriage of the UK, a major debate on independence heard.

The plea to show Scots more respect and affection came from Penrith and The Border MP Rory Stewart and human rights lawyer Helena Kennedy QC at a packed Guildhall for the Evening Standard debate ahead of September’s referendum.

“What is England doing?” asked Tory MP Mr Stewart. “It seems to be dealing with the situation much as if your partner tells you they are going to leave you.

In the chair: Emily Maitlis directed the passionate debate at Guildhall (Picture: Nigel Howard) “England seems to be doing one of two things, either saying ‘oh you’ll never be able to afford it, you’re never going to be able to go out on your own, you’ll regret it, you’ll come back soon’.

“Or even worse, we seem to be sitting in our armchair saying ‘well, it’s up to you if you want to do it, but it’s nothing to do with me’.

“If we wish to keep this country together, we need to say something else. We need to say ‘we love you’.”

The panel, chaired by the BBC Newsnight presenter Emily Maitlis, included Chief Secretary to the Treasury Danny Alexander, Scottish National Party MP Stewart Hosie, businesswoman Michelle Thomson and Scottish comedian Hardeep Singh Kohli.

Baroness Kennedy, a “proud” Scot who would “hate” to see a severance, urged: “We have to say to them, ‘your contribution is vital and hasn’t been listened to enough’, let’s talk about liberal democracy, let’s talk about the values we all share?…?that’s the love letter that will bring Scots together with the English to create a better kind of United Kingdom.”

Today, a new poll claimed Scottish voters are turning away from Alex Salmond’s dream of independence. Excluding the don’t knows, the Yes vote is trailing by 39 per cent to 61 percent, said the YouGov/Times survey. That was a shift from 42 and 58 in March, suggesting the No campaign is pulling ahead.

Scotland’s ability to control its own tax revenues, welfare and economic growth were at the heart of passionate clashes in last night’s debate. Mr Alexander promised extra powers if Scotland stays, including control over income tax, capital gains and inheritance taxes — giving it the power to raise “over half” of revenues.

He added: “Nationalism is fundamentally about putting up barriers, liberalism is about taking those barriers down. In the UK we have the best of both worlds, let’s keep it that way.”

But Mr Hosie retorted: “What we are seeking is not segregation, it’s not ethnic nationalism.

“It’s about equipping our [Scottish] government with all the tools and powers it needs to improve the life chances of the people of Scotland.”

He said Scotland was not dependent on London or the UK, saying that for the last 50 years “every man woman and child in Scotland has contributed £1,500 more every year in tax than the UK average”.

Ms Thomson, representing the business community, said: “As Vince Cable said, London is becoming a giant sucking machine draining the life out of the rest of the country. Does London need Scotland to thrive? No. Does Scotland need London to thrive? No.”

Hardeep Singh Kohli joked that hatred for the English dissipated “a few weeks ago” when England was knocked out of the World Cup, adding: “The reason why Scottish independence is so important is?…?we [Scots] know who we are. The single biggest beneficiary of Scottish independence will be England. Your body politic is rotting, your House of Commons is full of charlatans and thieves. That’s the truth.”

For the Union

Helena Kennedy, Barrister and member of the Lords:

“I am a proud Scot. I love Scotland. But I love London and I am very clear it is my city. I love its diversity, entrepreneurialism, cultural capacity, pulse and its power. This city is very much one young Scots look to and are stimulated by and they bring the experience they’ve had with them. I would hate to see a severance of the links. The cost of structural change is an issue. No one has clear figures as to what it would cost to create embassies around the world, the creation of security services an independent Scotland would need. The way forward is about working together to solve the problems that are confronting us in the face of globalisation.”

Danny Alexander. Chief Secretary to the Treasury:

“We in Scotland face the most important decision we will ever make. A decision in which there is no going back. We are much better, stronger and influential together than apart. Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland are the most successful family of nations ever known, with a stronger future united. Scotland is a hugely successful nation. London is a hugely successful city. And we’re successful because we are part of one United Kingdom. Success comes, for example, from the deep-rooted links between London and Scotland, deep links in science, finance and the arts.”

Rory Stewart, Tory MP for Penrith and the Border:

“This campaign has unlocked a real energy in Scottish politics. Scots have never been so serious and so engaged, in fact in some ways coming back into England can feel like a deflating experience. What we need to find is not an event that is temporary, 15 minutes of holding hands, but something much more permanent, something symbolic but which in the end has to be the rebuilding of our country, which recognises that in the end the arguments are on the side of union, not division. The challenge is reaching out and embracing the North and embracing the areas that are doing less well [than London].”

For Independence

Hardeep Singh Kohli, Scottish comedian:

“This isn’t about our hatred of the English, that dissipated when you got knocked out [of the World Cup]. I’m the child of an immigrant. My people come from north-west India, surely by extension of a ‘better together’ argument, India should have stayed together with Britain? There was a documentary on BBC Scotland some years ago about what the English really think of the Scots, and the reality is, not a great deal.We’re just not on their radar. We know who we are. The biggest beneficiary of Scottish independence will be England. Your body politic is rotting, your House of Commons is full of charlatans and thieves.”

Michelle Thomson, MD Business for Scotland:

“Given that we recognise the Scots as a nation and the current UK as a grouping of nations, then we must also recognise the right of those nations within that union to exercise self-determination. London is an economic powerhouse, perhaps even a city state. As Vince Cable said, London is becoming a giant sucking machine draining the life out of the rest of the country. Shouldn’t Scotland embrace the healthy ambition that suggests it should be so much more? Independence is about the sovereign nation of Scotland taking accountability.”

Stewart Hosie, SNP MP:

“Do we need each other? Probably. Every nation, every city, every region on the face of the planet is interconnected. We all need each other in every way. But what we are seeking is not segregation, it’s not ethnic nationalism, it’s not putting up a wall, we’re not going to dig a trench across the border. Independence is normal, absolutely normal. The ability of our nation to elect its own government, to get the government it elects, every time, not just some of the time, and for that government to have all the powers every other government takes for granted, to improve the lot of the Scottish people.”

Letters to the editor: The issues in the Scottish debate

Last night’s debate illustrated the myth of the Scottish Yes campaign’s supposed positivity.
Stewart Hosie MP’s defence of a break-up on the grounds of “increased prosperity, social justice and fairness” is an exclusive vision of prosperity and social justice for Scots alone.
The Yes side argued that the UK is broken, corrupt and finished, and Scotland is therefore justified in seeking an exit. Even if the UK fitted that description, it would be even more reason for staying together and cooperating to find solutions in future.
The main policies proposed by the Scottish government (tax “competition”, possible national debt default, North Sea oil reallocation, Trident relocation, for example) is to extract resources from UK taxpayers and population. Trying to frame it as a struggle for liberty and freedom is beyond absurd.
A vote for No is a vote against intolerance, exclusivity and division. I hope the majority of Scots, for all our sakes, feel the same way.
Ollie Shipway

Since the end of the era of great power politics, the UK has been a persistent drag on the English nation.
The UK State, vaingloriously addicted to great power status, drains England’s wealth through prodigal spending and international interventionism.
As the European Commission has regularly confirmed, it is the UK not its constituent nations which is a member of the EU. Scottish independence also means the untying of the relationship with Northern Ireland, which postdates the 1707 Union of Parliaments. The dissolution of the UK by this means implies we are automatically out of the EU.
The UK’s failure to operate in the best interests of English people is amply demonstrated by the extra £10,000 it spends on the average Scottish family.
The promise of yet further devolution by all the main parties in the event of a No vote means all the unfairness and discrimination against the English is set to worsen.
All proud Englishmen and women should hope Scotland votes Yes in September to give us all a fresh start as friendly neighbours outside the UK.
Robin Tilbrook, English Democrats

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  1. If England and Scotland leave the UK, London, Wales, Northern Ireland and a load of small islands scattered around the world will be all that is left of the British Empire.

  2. Even if there is a NO Vote do you really think the Pro Voters will let it lye !

    Some sort of "Turmoil " will follow in one form or other !

    Nod is as good as a Wink Fawlty !

    Will the USA still ban the Haggis ?

    "exciting days for those who where skirts" only joking ! .

    Just polishing up my Saxon shield and Axe #

  3. 'Steadfast' (the English educational charity) should use language planning to bring English back from the brink of the grave, as set out by David Cowley in his book 'How We'd Talk - if the English had won in 1066'.
    Ancwe (Ancillary World English - international English) must be rolled back and its stead in England be taken by New English (the theedish speech of England), the true English.
    Steadfast should picket the BBC in Leeds and Nottingham to get them to use New English (made from Old English and Norse) and the universities of Leeds and Nottingham to get them to build New English from Old English and Norse.

    Ancwe - global
    English - worldwide

    Ancwe - liberty
    English -freedom

    Ancwe - decade
    English - ten years

    Ancwe - final
    English - last

    Ancwe - finally
    New English - endly

    Ancwe - nation
    New English - theed

    Ancwe - national
    New English - theedly/theedish

    'The theed which has lost its theedish tongue has lost its soul'

  4. Oswald,
    Reference, "Ancwe - finally; New English - endly". Surely 'lastly' is a perfectly good English word?

    1. Sorry, Oswald, but I still think you're barking up the wrong dog. Only a few weeks ago, we were extracting the Michael over this Cornish E.U. "recognised" thing.
      I would welcome the purging of Americanisms from our language, (I detest the word "movie") but to try to convince English people that they need to learn what would effectively be an entirely new language would be a non-starter.
      A handful of eccentrics speak Cornish. We would be ridiculed as a bunch of (at best) eccentrics if we tried to implement what you propose.
      I still admire your zeal.

    2. Clive,
      Americanisms are not the problem. The problem is too many French/Latin/Greekisms.
      It would be harder to purge Americanisms from Ancwe (Ancillary World English) than to get folk to speak New English.
      Native Ancwe speakers are in the minority, and of native speakers of Ancwe, the English are a minority.
      As you say, a mere handful speak neo-Cornish, but the number of Cornish folk is itself very small.
      Within a generation, we could replace Ancwe with New English in England.
      New English would give English folk back their soul. It has been done with Norwegian and Greek among other languages.

  5. From an article in the New Statesman of May 15th 2014
    "Despite widespread anti-immigration sentiment, disaffection with the mainstream parties and the rise in numbers identifying as English rather than British, the party has fared poorly in local elections and received a derisory 0.17 per cent at the 2013 Eastleigh by-election.

    There is one obvious reason for this lack of success: Ukip. As the political scientist Matthew Goodwin, the co-author of Revolt on the Right: Explaining Support for the Radical Right in Britain, explains, there is “no question” that Nigel Farage’s party has “hampered the progress of other radical-right movements that also target English nationalism as a recruiter of votes”.

    Ukip’s support is certainly strongest in England, yet the party explicitly defines itself as British and is staunchly unionist when it comes to the UK’s member nations. Does that show there’s no appetite for English nationalism? “English identity is growing,” says Sunder Katwala of the think tank British Future, but he argues that it is usually more concerned with cultural recognition than with political representation for the English."

  6. Cameron says that a vote in favour of Scottish independence would break his heart.
    Robin should get himself up to the Isle of Skye and persuade English residents there to vote for that outcome

  7. I say good riddance to anything british especially empire and lets support England and talk England and the English,yet never turning your back on the Falkands,Gibralter,and all the Islands around the World
    which are really,mainly, English than british..... it was The English Navy that surely ruled the waves than british.

  8. I agree that we must put an end to the British Empire or Norman/Angevin Empire that took England as its first colony before starting on Wales with Edward the First and went on from there, with a little help from the bankers of Amsterdam who created the City of London in the 17th century. Perhaps Robin knows whether it is true that all our former colonies, including the United States, are still listed as companies in the City. What was the Dutch East India Company became the British East India Company and then the British Empire Company and so it remains.

    However, having dissolved the Empire as far as the world is concerned, the biggest of the British Empire Company's subsidiaries has taken over that role. The United States of America is now aiming to outshine the Brits by aiming for total world domination. Russia Today last night revealed that the Rand Corporation, a think tank acting on behalf of Washington and the big coporations, had produced a plan for the Ukraine which bears an uncanny resemblance to what is actually being played out there. I think we all know now who Poroshenko is playing the puppet for. The plan involved surrounding those in the East who do not want to be ruled by anti-Russian neo-nazis in Kiev and blasting them to bits or forcing them to flee. This is now happening, including little old ladies. Poroshenko has no intention of bringing peace. Even my hero, Paul Craig Roberts, said that America's plan is to escalate the offensive. One brave woman in the parliament in Kiev asked Poroshenko why his army were killing children. He just got angry. He could have said because the Americans are telling us to do it. However, even UKIP have now picked up that the new planned North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement will reduce us even further to the status of slaves, cotton picking or otherwise.

    It really does recall the imperial forays of the British Empire in Africa, Australasia and elsewhere. Viktor Nekrassov, the Russian correspondent in London, spoke of American asset stripping, British Empire style, in the Ukraine and that is what is happening, And now the Europeans face the prospect of no gas for the winter. But that will not worry Washington as they aim to weaken Russia as they are in the process also of fomenting unrest in China. They really don't care about Europe it is just more collatoral damage 3,000 miles away.

    So, if you thought that the British Empire was bad then welcome to the British Empire mark 2. As regards Scotland, much seems to depend on what to do with the nuclear weapons in the Holy Loch. My suggestion is to moor those subs on the Thames outside Westminster.

    By the way, does anybody know what went on with shootings and stabbings in Birmingham. Methinks it was more cultural enrichment.