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Monday, 9 July 2012

What has Cameron told us about his own sense of National Identity?

This picture tells a tale about Cameron's national identity. It is said to be "Chillaxing: David Cameron walks with his wife Samantha past stalls at this year's Cornbury Festival" held at the Great Tew estate near Chipping Norton, the Cotswolds market town that has become the unlikely power base for Britain’s political and media elite. Mr Cameron’s constituency home is close by in Witney.

The Cornbury Music Festival prides itself on being a “top notch, very English affair”. Organisers describe it as “a homespun melting pot where music-lovers share pies and a glass of champagne with superstars, toffs, rockers, crooners, Morris dancers, farmers, urbanites, fashionistas, gourmet chefs and little old ladies who make exceptional cakes”.

But what has Dave Donald Cameon told us about his own sense of National Identity?

What follows is a sample of some revealing comments. What do you think it really tells us about his attachment to England?

Negative stereotypes of Scots undermining union: CameronPublished: Sunday, 17 September, 2006, 10:22 AM Doha Time

David Cameron
By Colin Brown

ENGLISH ignorance of Scotland and the portrayal of Glaswegians as drunks is damaging the union, Conservative leader David Cameron warned in a speech aimed at defusing growing calls for an English Parliament.

Mr Cameron vowed to ensure that Scotland would remain part of the UK if he became prime minister, but he said that ‘ignorant and inaccurate stereotypes’ by comedians and commentators were threatening to undermine the union.

“Whether it’s Russ Abbott-style lampooning or the inevitable aggressive Glaswegian drunk in TV programmes, the cumulative effect can be depressing,” he said.

Sports commentators who described Scottish sportsmen and women as ‘British’ when they won but only referred to them as Scots when they lost were also blamed by Mr Cameron for exacerbating the tensions.

He said there was also no excuse for shops in England treating Scottish pound notes as if they had come ‘straight out of a Monopoly box’.

“Instead of deriding Scots as chippy or difficult, isn’t it time that English people of good will educated themselves?” he said.

Attacking confusion among English commentators, Mr Cameron claimed they derided the Scots as ‘hopeless drunks and beggars’ while at the same time protesting at the domination of Scots in the media as the ‘Scottish raj - a race of superhumans led by John Reid and Kirsty Wark’.

Calling for a fresh start by the Tories on Scotland, Mr Cameron admitted that a series of ‘blunders’ had been made by the Tories in Scotland including the poll tax.

It was the second time in recent weeks that he had criticised Scotland’s past record, having said it was wrong over apartheid in South Africa.

“The decision to treat Scotland as a laboratory for experimentation in new methods of local government finance was clumsy and unjust,” he said.

“On devolution too, we fought on against the idea of a Scottish Parliament long after it became clear that it was the settled will of the people.”

It was no compensation to see the Labour Party ‘displaying the same insensitivity’, he said, by destroying historic regiments such as the Black Watch. “It weakens the Union and reminds Scots of Tory mistakes,” he said.

Mr Cameron made it plain he wants to rebuild Tory support in Scotland in advance of next year’s May elections, which are expected to be bad for Labour.

He said the Tories’ hold on only one Scottish Parliamentary seat out of 59, and 17 seats in the Holyrood Parliament was ‘pretty dismal’.

But his remarks underlined growing fears that the election of the Gordon Brown as Prime Minister with a Cabinet dominated by ministers with Scottish seats will spark a renewed controversy over Scottish representation at Westminster next year, which marks the 300th anniversary of the Act of Union.

Some senior Conservative figures believe it will lead to fresh calls for an English Parliament that could be dominated by the Tories.

The Tory leader warned that SNP leader Alex Salmond could not ask for more effective allies than ‘sour Little Englanders’ who cried ‘good riddance’ when full independence for Scotland was raised.
Mr Cameron set himself against calls for an English Parliament, and warned against exacerbating anti-English opinion north of the border.

One recent poll showed a majority in Scotland were in favour of independence, and during the World Cup, tensions had boiled over with Jack McConnell, the Scottish Labour leader, being criticised for adopting an ‘anyone but England’ attitude.

The Conservative leader said the so-called West Lothian question was a ‘problem’ that needed addressing, and was being reviewed by the Conservative commission on democracy under Kenneth Clarke, the former Chancellor.

The issue - raised by Tam Dalyell, when he was Labour MP for West Lothian - questioned the right of Scottish MPs to vote on bills affecting England at Westminster while English MPs were denied that right because of Scottish devolution.

“Sending and MSP to Holyrood to vote against tuition fees for Scotland is fine,” he said. “Sending an MP to Westminster to vote for tuition fees for England is fine too. Doing both at the same time is problematic to say the least.” – The Independent

The full text of the speech is here:-
Click>Scottish Conservatives :: Speeches

Perhaps we should not be surprised after this, from the MP for Witney:-

Subj: Andrew Marr interviews "Dave" Donald Cameron, Sunday 25th June 2006

ANDREW MARR: Another area of constitutional argument just at the moment is the whole business of the Scots and the English. Lots of people are saying now there should be English votes for English laws - Ken Clarke is clearly attracted by that - and there's quite hubbub now saying that the Scots are getting too much public money, that the old Barnett formula, in fact Joel Barnett himself has said this, needs to be looked at again. Are the Scots getting too much public money at the moment, proportionately?

DAVID CAMERON: I don't have any plans to change the arrangements. Obviously we're in opposition, we have the opportunity to look at these things and we should do so. But I don't have any plans to make changes. And we should look at funding on the basis of need. And I think that's the right way, right way round. But I want, you know, I am a passionate Unionist, I think that Scotland brings a huge amount to the United Kingdom. The Scottish people bring a huge amount to the United Kingdom and I don't want, and I'm a Cameron, there is quite a lot of Scottish blood flowing through these veins.

ANDREW MARR: It's clearly the problem that you could have is in effect one party, shall we say the Conservative Party, had won a majority of seats in England, and was therefore in effect the government of England when it came to most of the things that voters were interested in, and there might be another party, Lib-Lab party or whatever it might be, still formally the British government.

DAVID CAMERON: Well I would put it another way which it would mean in the future that you couldn't have a government that could override the wishes of MPs sitting for English constituencies on matters that affect England in terms of health and education and transport.
ANDREW MARR: But it's tricky?

DAVID CAMERON: Well I don't see why it should ... I want parliament to be back at the centre of national life. I think one of the problems under this government is Parliament and the House of Commons has been so by-passed.

Here is his official position:-

Dear Stephen,

Thank you for writing to David Cameron - I am replying on his behalf.
David was born in England so, if you are asking whether he is Scottish, English or Welsh - he is English. However, he likes to think of himself as British.

Many thanks again for your email.
Yours sincerely,

Anna Biles
Correspondence Secretary
David Cameron's Office
House of Commons
London SW1A 0AA

Here's a link to this:- Click>

David Cameron continues to be adamantly against any show of Englishness. In proof, I give you a quotation from a recent article by a journalist, Mark Stuart.

“As an ardent Unionist, I was greatly encouraged by David Cameron’s remarks earlier this year, when he took part in a grilling from Yorkshire Post readers. When quizzed by Paul Cockcroft, a member of the Royal Society of St George about introducing a new public holiday to celebrate St George’s Day, Cameron rejected the idea, adding: “I want to be Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, not just England. I think we’re stronger having England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland united”.

So one of the first things English nationalists need to realise about David Cameron is that he will leave them disappointed. The Conservatives have no plans to establish an English Parliament. Nor do they propose solving the so-called West Lothian Question”..

Tory leader, David Cameron, was at Christ Church Parish Centre in North Shields on the 10th
January 2009 fielding questions from the public. Newcastle’s Evening Chronicle Alaistair Craig reported this response.

“One member of the audience complained of the huge differences between services in the North East and Scotland.

She complained that free prescriptions, university tuition and care for the elderly in England should be a priority issue for any Cameron Government.

Mr Cameron responded “I don’t want to do anything that will encourage a sense of English nationalism and distance between the two countries.”


  1. There could be no greater distance between the two nations than already exists, and that distance is generated by the Scots. Every thing in Scotland is branded with the soltire to prove its lack of Britishness in general and Englishness in particular.

    English people are ignorant in the main to the contempt in which they are held by Scotland, as shown by the generous and genuine support for fellow Brit' Andy Murray at Wimbledon. Murray and Scotland would have backed any and every player that might have played against an Englishman - and with venom.

    Scotland is institutonally bigotted against its brother nation England and has kept the secret from the masses for a long time.

  2. As I have posted elsewhere, the gum-chewing David Cameron was obviously glued to his Scottish hero, the England-hating Andy Murray at Wimbledon, having flown the saltire at no 10. Mr Murray showed his true Scottish grit by blubbing when he lost. Why was Mr Cameron not present to see the real British Wimbledon champion, England's Johnny Marray and his Danish buddy win the men's doubles championship if Mr Cameron is meant to be as English as the rest of us? The main reason why he does not want to encourage English nationalism is that it could bring the British establishment down, scotch ( oops ) his chances of remaining the British prime minister,cause a swift exit from the EU and put an end to the disastrous ( for us ) experiment in social engineering that is multiculturalism. "England arise" is as frightening for them as the Nazis' "Deutschland erwache" (Germany awake). As for the stereotyping of Scots, this is no different from the stereotyping by people of Mr Cameron's class of northerners but as a northerner it doesn't worry me as I know that we are much better than him and his Bullingdon Culb chums. As the bonding between Mr Marray and Mr Freddie Nielsen showed, the English probably have much more in common with the Danes and the Norwegians than with the Scots. I have referred you all to Morten Messerschmidt of the Danish Freedom Party and his excellent trouncing of his own prime minister in the European Parliament, ending in his plea to her to give Denmark back to its people, displaying the typical northern love of freedom and independence. The Norwegians said they would not join the EEC unless we did, so much do they love us. I think you should forge links with the Freedom Parties in those two countries, Robin. I am sure they would support us in our bid for our own parliament as such is their history of democracy, at least as old as if not older than our own. After all, our country is that of the Angelcynn, the people who came from a part of Denmark,before it was nicked for Germany by Bismarck in the 19th century.

    1. I bet Cameron can't even lie straight in bed. I would not believe him if if was looking at his watch and telling me the time.

    2. Mr Cameron is probably in a bit of multicultural panic at this very moment as the news broke, until supressed by a D Notice, that the target of the six ( or was it seven ) muslim extremists arrested recently was probably the "extreme right wing" Mr Tommy Robinson of the EDL. Firstly, it is strange how anybody who criticises the multi-cultural/multi-racial project foisted on Europe by Marxists and globalizers is extreme right wing. This would make Churchil extreme right wing, but perhaps a tad to the left of Adolf Hitler. I am waiting for Churchill to be demonised by the Marxist revisionists and our youngsters to be taught that he was a right wing extremist, especially since he said that the next fascism would be anti-facism i.e. Marxism. No longer a hero but a villain. As regards the EDL, I read a comment predicting the start of the civil war in 2012;a fitting memorial for the 100th anniversary of Enoch Powell's death. At the same time we have another racist abuse court case (Terry versus Ferdinand). And what is so sickening is that all this was so predictable to anybody, like old Enoch, with an ounce of common sense. As for Cameron, has he heard what Australia's Labour yes Labour prime minister has said, namely that Muslims should behave or bugger off out of Australia? The Bali bombing was enough for them. She makes Cameron seem as Conservative as Leon Trotsky and way to the left of her and reveals him as the cultural marxist he is. Meanwhile the cretins at Westminster are debating Lords reform - talk about fiddling whilst Rome burns, second only to the C of E talking about women bishops whilst Islam creeps over them. It reminds me of mediaeval theologians discussing how many angels could dance on the head of a pin!!

    3. Churchill's legacy has been given iron clad protection. He was an opportunist and vaingloriously drove Britain to war and sacrificed the Empire to boot. His reputation does not bear scrutiny as a protector of England. He loved America, and had a plane ready to whisk him away should things have not turned out as they did. He misled the Poles and betrayed them by allowing Stalin to reclaim more lives and ground than Hitler did, and we went to war to protect them, supposedly.

      After Dunkirk Germany went to great lengths to offer terms to Britain which Churchill refused at the behest of his masters.

      As a result we sacrificed hundreds of thousands of lives and mounted up huge debts that have only very recently been paid off - sound familiar?

      If you want a real picture of how English people thought about Churchill and his political skills, look at the result of the general election after the war. Normally conquering heroes, like Wellington, are made Prime Minister after famous victories, Churchill was dumped emphatically.

    4. The first comment on this story says its the Scots who have generated ALL the bad feeling. Are you really trying to say comments above like "Mr Murray showed his true Scottish grit by blubbing when he lost" have had no part to play?

  3. Cameron has no feelings for either the English or Scottish people - he is a cultural marxist who does not give a hoot about the fate of the people who inhabit these isles. If he did, he would stop giving away OUR money to third world countries while we suffer from 'austerity' cuts!

    If I was skint, but then proceeded to borrow money from a bank and gave it all away to charities, there is every possibility I would be sectioned. Yet he sees fit to allow us to give away £1.4 BILLION, to be spent on contraceptives for third world countries while our public services are decimated by cuts to save money!

    With 'friends' like this running the country, who needs enemies?

    1. It strikes me that the £1.4 billion spent on contraceptives for third world countries was money wisely spent, provided they know how to used them. If we had been sending them contraceptives since the pill was invented and we, responibly to prevent world over-population, started using it, then their population would not have trebled in that time whilst ours remained static or decreased. And the population of India and Africa is set to double again. I wonder where they will all be headed. If you think the queues are long at Heathrow now! We should have put the stuff in the water we were providing for them and encouraged to eat more fish so they might develop the brain cells to stop breeding when there is no food!!

    2. "It strikes me that the £1.4 billion spent on contraceptives for third world countries was money wisely spent, provided they know how to used them"

      IF they will ever use them, is more to the point!

      It will take a lot more effort than just throwing contraceptives at them to change thousands of years of culture in which having lots of offspring is the norm.

      Rather than wasting OUR money on this project, the money could have been spent on improving our border controls to stop undesirables entering our country. The breeding habits of other nations is not our concern.

  4. I am sure that Prime Minister Gillard is now realising how right she has been as she compares the security problems at the London and the Sydney olympics. She must be gasping as we all are at the prospect of one fifth of the British army guarding London for two weeks and missile launchers positioned on tower blocks. She knows that every muslim in this country is a potential terrorist and - unlike Australia - we now have millions of them. They have us where they want us. When we asked for the boys to come back from Afghanistan we did not anticipate that it would be to protect London from them as well. I am glad that I live 300 miles away and wonder whether all those who planned to go will now go. Just to think that it was we who had the whip hand over Australia's founding fathers when we shipped them out as convicts. And now they must look on us in despair (or our governing elite at least) for the pathetic surrender monkeys they are, not a single brain cell between them, let alone one ounce of true grit.