Life sentence for the killer of Jo Cox
It was interesting to see from the reports of the trial that Thomas Mair apparently refused to plead at all and therefore was treated as having pleaded not guilty. On, no doubt, being rightly convicted of murdering Jo Cox he was then sentenced by the Judge to a “Whole Life Sentence”(aka "Order").
We have heard this is a mentally disturbed loner with a long history of psychiatric problems. The murder seems to have been at least much a product of “Care in the Community” than of any political issue.
No doubt the chorus from the authorities would have been entirely different if he had been an Islamist!
It is also interesting to see the reaction in terms of this sentence. Here is what the judicial sentencing guidelines say:-
Whole life order
For the most serious cases, an offender may be sentenced to a life sentence with a ‘whole life order.’ This means that their crime was so serious that they will never be released from prison.
On 30 June 2016 there were 59 offenders serving a whole life sentence. These include serial killers Peter Sutcliffe, Ian Brady, Dennis Nilson and Rosemary West.
Here is a link to the sentencing guidelines >>> https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/about-sentencing/types-of-sentence/life-sentences/
The key part to consider is the whole life sentence and the type of criminals that get sentenced to whole life sentences, who are predominately serial killers. They are sentenced to whole life sentences because they are a general threat to the community.
An even more startling contrast comes when you consider what has happened with IRA killers. Consider this report:-
John Proctor murder: Life sentence for IRA killing of part time RUC man
Seamus Kearney who was today jailed for life for the murder of reserve RUC constable John Proctor
A convicted terrorist has been jailed for life after being found guilty of the IRA murder of part time RUC man John Proctor 32 years ago.
Belfast Recorder, Judge David McFarland told 54-year-old Seamus Martin Kearney, he was satisfied he was "either the gunman, the driver of the Ford Escort RS200 (getaway car) or was an occupant of the car being present to provide support for the killing".
Kearney, of Gorteade Road, Swatragh, Co Derry, had denied the murder of the 25-year-old reservist and possessing the Armalite AR15 assault rifle used to shoot him dead, minutes after visiting his wife June, and new-born son, John Jr, at the Mid Ulster Hospital on September 14, 1981.
DNA found on a cigarette butt recovered from the scene later matched Kearney's DNA profile and the Belfast Crown Court judge said in "all of the circumstances I am satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant had smoked the cigarette and having finished it smoking it, discarded it at, or about the time of the shooting".
After Judge McFarland announced his guilty verdict, Mr Proctor's widow June wept.
Other members of his family, including his sister, comforted one and other.
Although Kearney was told the only sentence for murder was life imprisonment, and while he is yet to hear what tariff is to be fixed on the sentence, under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, he may only serve two years of the eventual sentence.
This is the second time that Kearney has been convicted of a terrorist gun attack.
In December 1984 Kearney was jailed for the attempted murder of UDR soldiers, whose Land Rover came under fire from the same AR15 rifle used to kill John Proctor.
Here is a link to the original >>> http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/john-proctor-murder-life-sentence-for-ira-killing-of-part-time-ruc-man-29792597.html
Also consider this Article by Louise Mensch the former 'Conservative' MP:-
Jo Cox’s Murderer is Convicted – But I Stand By What I Said About His Prejudiced Trial
Jo Cox’s murderer, Thomas Mair, has been convicted in a court of law. We can say that he was a terrorist; and that he murdered this brave wife and mother for political reasons. The legal definition of ‘terrorism’ is violence undertaken to achieve a political end.
But some people and journalists who support Remain have used the result of the trial to tell me that I should disavow tweets I made about Mair and Cox during the Referendum. They have also erroneously said that I recently deleted (presumably because of the verdict) tweets I made about Mair and Cox.
Let’s address the first accusation first. I tweet a lot, and use a tweet deletion tool periodically that wipes tweets from a given period or by a given keyword eg: ‘Labour’ “Corbyn” “Tories”. So no, no tweets about Mair and Cox were deleted other than as part of an auto-delete program.
My arguments about Thomas Mair and his trial still stand today.
How can that be? Mair was convicted after being found to be fit to stand trial; he was evaluated psychologically first. That order – from the judge – came after Mair gave his name as ‘death to traitors, freedom for Britain’. Clearly the judge thought it warranted.
The evaluation did not find Mr. Mair’s mental illness as being so advanced that he could evade criminal responsibility. That is literally all we know about it. There is, however, strong evidence that Mair was mentally ill. He was being treated for it, he asked for help the day before he went to kill Jo Cox; he had in the past commented on mental health, even advocated for it.
In fact, based on an article by Matthew Scott in his barrister blog, I would argue that parts of Thomas Mair’s trial seem, at least on the surface, to be unfair, based on his mental health issues, and others, I would argue, raise the question of a miscarriage of justice – at least in so far as it would seem the accused did not receive a fair trial.
Firstly, as the piece points out, Stephen Kinnock was allowed to read an impact statement about Jo Cox before Mr. Mair was convicted. This seems wrong and prejudicial. The article certainly at the least implies that it ought not to have happened:
Why were the jury read a statement from Stephen Kinnock?
Mr Kinnock’s statement seems to have had nothing to do with proving the guilt of Mr Mair. It was a heartfelt tribute to a friend and political colleague.
I have no idea why it was admitted into evidence. Such letters are often read once someone has been convicted, but it is hard to see the relevance while Mair’s guilt was still not legally established. Perhaps, for some reason, the defence agreed to this unusual course being adopted.
Secondly, there was no psychiatric evidence or medical evidence argued in mitigation.
Let us remember that Thomas Mair was subject to psychiatric evaluation because he said that his name was ‘Death to Traitors, Freedom for Britain.’. In the court, he refused to speak at all except to confirm his name. He would not enter a plea, and the judge had to enter one for him. The defence at that time also told the judge they would not advance a psychiatric defence. From Reuters:
He remained silent when asked if he was guilty or not guilty to the murder, as he did when the other charges were read out to him.
“He appears to be mute therefore I will enter a plea of not guilty,” said Judge Alan Wilkie.
His lawyer told the court at another hearing in September that Mair would not present a defence case based on medical evidence. That could involve arguments such as, for example, that he had diminished responsibility due to a medical condition.
Matthew Scott asks the pertinent question:
Why then did the defence not call any such evidence? Insanity or, more realistically, manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility, provided the only remotely plausible escape route from a life sentence. So why did the jury not hear from any psychiatrist? There are quite a number of explanations: perhaps Mair had refused to co-operate with the preparation of any such report. Perhaps he had co-operated but the psychiatrists had agreed that he was entirely sane and not suffering from any relevant mental health problems.
While all things are possible, I would suggest the second option is unlikely. Co-operation with such a report would indicate a desire to argue mitigation on mental health grounds. If the first report found Mair responsible, there might have been an appeal for another report.
More worryingly, Mr. Scott’s article goes on to assume that mental health will be taken into account in sentencing:
Even though the defence did not run any form of “psychiatric” defence, it is likely that before he is sentenced the judge will want to give some consideration to his mental health.
But it was not. In point of fact, the judge’s short remarks make no reference at all to any mental health diagnoses, below the level required to argue competence to stand trial.
Why then did the accused’s barrister not raise any objections to Mr. Kinnock’s testimony, nor ask for mitigation based on mental health issues? Matthew Scott skillfully lays out how Mair’s barrister Mr. Russell-Flint did what he could for his client within the code of conduct, if his client had admitted the murder to him. But there is surely a further explanation. If Mair was found to have the competence to stand trial, and he was, he could have given his barrister instructions, and ignored his barrister’s advice, and his lawyer would have had to go along with his client’s wishes, as he could not call for his client’s decision-making powers to be removed when he had just been declared to be sane.
There is, however, an absolute gulf between sanity for the purposes of criminal responsibility and mental illness. You can be both sane, and suffer from extreme mental illness. Only at a certain level of mental illness do you lose responsibility.
It was the judge in the trial, then, and not the court-appointed lawyer, who had the job of guarding Mr. Mair’s rights. And he appears not to have done so. Both the trial and the commentary in its aftermath concentrated on the unarguable, unargued virtues of the brave MP, wife and mother, Jo Cox MP. It is one thing for a press to do that, even other politicians. But it is not morally right for judges to do it. Before he was convicted, the trial judge allowed the jury to hear from Stephen Kinnock about Jo Cox’s good character. That is wrong. It is morally indefensible. Thomas Mair was mentally ill but competent and the judge, I believe, played to the gallery by making the trial what it never ought to have been – a comparator of the characters of heroic Jo Cox and racist Thomas Mair.
Before the trial I was tweeting about the hugely prejudicial leaks coming out of the police to the newspapers; and about tweeters online falsely tweeting photographs of a man who was not Thomas Mair who had been involved with racist groups. It would appear that I was correct in my surmise. The man that the left was calling “Thomas Mair” who appeared with Britain First in Dewsbury was not the same person. I was quite correct in what I reported at that time and am proud that the work I did on this matter has been confirmed. Tell Mama UK, the anti-Islamophobic, anti-racist organisation, reported:
Parts of the Left did attempt to provide a ‘gotcha’ moment to the media. But it would fall flat. Nor did it stop a litany of social media posts and blogs from presenting ‘evidence’ of Mair’s overt fascist beliefs. A ‘smoking gun’ had been found, they claimed. Mair was no ‘timid gardener,’ but a neo-Nazi hidden in plain sight. One photo attributed to Mair had depicted a man performing a Nazi salute. His arms covered in far-right tattoos, wearing a Blood & Honour shirt. Yet, the person in question was not Thomas Mair. Photos of Mair’s arrest revealed a man with no tattoos on either arm. Nor did the man share the same mole on his left cheek. Despite such facts, Facebook posts and tweets with this false informed gained thousands of shares.
A second photo claimed to prove Mair ‘links’ to the far-right Britain First party and street defence movement. This evidence was based on a single photo from their activities in Dewsbury in 2015. One source claimed that the black baseball cap was the same worn by Mair on the day of the murder. But again, the poor quality of the photo made verification impossible. The man alleged to be Mair in this photo, however, appears to wear a navy-blue coloured cap. On the day of the murder, CCTV footage of Mair showed him in a whitebaseball cap. Others described him wearing either a black or dark creambaseball cap. Once again, despite the uncertainties of the evidence, this second piece of ‘evidence’ gained hundreds of online shares.
All of this, as reported by me when politically unpopular to do so, was prejudicial to Thomas Mair’s rights. So was the abuse of his rights by the State when Parliament was recalled over the death of Cox. National newspapers again and again described the killing as “murder”. This prejudiced the trial of Mair.
Parliament to be recalled on Monday in mark of respect to murdered MP Jo Cox
The fact that Mair has now been convicted of murder does not change this fact one iota. The fact that the law has now declared that Cox’s killing was murder, because Mair has been convicted, in no way alters the fact that to declare her killing “murder” in advance of any mental health issues being heard at trial prejudiced Thomas Mair’s trial and his rights. So we now have Parliament, the national press, and thousands and thousands of social media users prejudicing the trial of a mentally ill man.
The courts issued no warnings to the press on behalf of Thomas Mair, as they have done in other cases. The judge allowed a friend of Jo Cox to sing her praises to the jury in advance of his conviction. I have little doubt that this was bad law, a poor judge, and a bad trial.
And my belief here has no relation whatsoever to the esteem in which I hold Jo Cox, who did her duty, who was so brave and so British. Because the law and the rights of the accused are easy to argue over when there is a more sympathetic defendant and a less sympathetic victim. When you have a competent, but deeply troubled, deeply mentally ill man who is a racist, and you have a beloved, brave MP who stands up for the weakest in her society, it’s a lot less convenient to be the person saying: the accused has rights and those rights were violated.
But I do say so. And as somebody who has spent the last six months fruitlessly fighting Donald Trump’s ascent to power, and battling Russia and their alt-right Nazi trolls, I have no doubt in my mind that it is the right thing to do. I knew that Thomas Mair was not the person in those photographs. I knew and still know he was mentally ill. That does not preclude either competence or guilt. I do not argue now – and did not argue before – that Thomas Mair was too mentally ill to be competent. But his mental illness should have been a factor for this judge; and his trial was hopelessly prejudiced by the media and social media before it began, and by the judge during its proceedings when he allowed Kinnock’s statement to the jury. I know that Jo Cox spent her life standing up to racism and the Nazi beliefs of Mair and other terrorists like him. From what I read of her, she would have been zealous too for an unprejudiced trial and the rights of the mentally ill to have that taken into consideration.
Thomas Mair’s unfair trial is not OK because his victim was a wonderful brave woman, a wife, mother, friend, and Member of Parliament. Nor is saying so an attack on Jo Cox’s memory, nor is it an apologia for Mair or for terrorism. There is every possibility that a completely fair and unprejudiced trial, without Kinnock’s statement being read, without it being called ‘Murder’ in the headlines in advance, without thousands of fake social media photos of some other Nazi, would have not only convicted Mair but, after due consideration of the mental illness the man did in fact have – have come to the same result and given Mair exactly the same sentence.
That outcome is even probable. And yet none of this changes the fact that Thomas Mair did not receive a fair trial. That can never diminish the memory of his heroic victim. Her character stands apart from Mair’s in every way. But it does diminish our great country, and it does diminish our justice system. And reporters perform a public duty when they point out violations of the rights of the accused, even if those accused are Nazis, and even if they are terrorists. Because a concern for justice is one thing that separates us from racists and terrorists. And that does not put me on the ‘side’ of Thomas Mair. It puts me in the same corner as the values to which Jo Cox MP dedicated her life.
Click here for original article >>> http://heatst.com/world/jo-coxs-murderer-is-convicted-but-i-stand-by-what-i-said-about-his-prejudiced-trial/
Shame that you haven't been as vocal or as eloquent over Sgt Blackman's kangaroo courts-martial.
ReplyDelete#freemarinea
#justiceformarinea
Have you seen this post?
Deletehttp://robintilbrook.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/royal-pardon-for-marine-a.html
You may well be right, Robin but, in cases like this, where mental illness can also be a sign of dark works by third parties- we will probably never find out.
ReplyDeleteThe third party you mention is no doubt rumoured to be the CIA, the hit squad of the elites. America is very much like a mafia state and has been for decades. Indeed, the CIA is meant to have been set up by George W Bush's grandfather to protect his oil interests.
DeleteI have heard that they groomed Mair and the British gent who attempted to assassinate Trump at that rally, flying the latter out of Lakenheath USAF base to the US. The CIA are the agents of American imperialism i.e the aim of the banks, big corporations to achieve world hegemony through regime change or brainwashing or electoral manipulation. It is well-known that they were involved in swinging the 1975 EEC referendum. And poor Jo's murder was an attempt to boost the Remain vote, which failed. And they are still at it, trying to overturn the direct democracy referendum which by-passed the Westminster shower.
I am still sickened by yesterday's vote against action against Blair over Iraq. Especially the sight of a Labour mp point scoring against the SNP instead of thinking about the hundreds of thousands who have died since 2003 due to Blair's actions.
Net immigration is now at an all time high as thousands flood in before the door is slammed shut with Brexit. Apparently, one in three English/British children now has a parent born abroad. The white holocaust rolls on. We have just agreed to send 150 troops to North-east Poland at the request of the Poles to counter the non-existent Russian threat. Putin has just said that he wants to live at peace with the rest of the world even though the West does not seem to want to do so with him. And he has also said that he wants Russia to concentrate on high tech. industries rather than arms exports. Hopefully, that will shame the West into doing the same; although I doubt it.
ReplyDeleteIt occurred to me that there are a million Poles here whom the English never invited in. If Poland is so frightened of the Russian "threat" than why not call them home and enlist them and get them to man the border rather than to get the British taxpayer to pay for their defence. Poles, I have heard, contribute little to our economy, importing their own food and sending their earnings home.
But there is worse, a German architect called Patrik Schumacher told a meeting that the process of demolishing inner London council estates to make way for homes for the rich should be speeded up so that he did not need to commute in to work. Germans are not known for their lack of arrogance of course. A group of cockney "deplorables" has been protesting outside his practice, that of Iranian architect Zaha Hadid. How much more do the English have to take thanks to the treacherous actions of their politicians wedded to the globalist one world, enriching for the few, agenda.
These are the people whose parents and grandparents told Winnie that they could take it during the Blitz only to be dumped on by his successors, Mr Schumacher.
Still, it seems that Black History Month is over on the BBC to be replaced by Asian Heritage Month as we had a programme about the Sikhs of Smethwick on BBC 4 last night. My question is what happened to the Smiths and Smedleys of Smethwick?; driven out by the incomers I suppose; but they don't count.
And now such as Mr Schumacher are driving diversity out of the big towns and cities into the English homelands as well. Well, it's all part of the plan of Mr Soros et al.
An example of cultural cleansing? From Stephen Williams the former MP for Bristol East.
Delete"He said: "In my own constituency, lots of pubs have closed but it is usually because of demographic change.
"Particularly in some parts of my constituency, which used to have ... 'a white working class community' 20 or 30 years ago are now populated primarily by recently-arrived Somalis and other people.
“Obviously the pubs in that area have closed.
“Some have been converted to other uses, some of them actually are still derelict.”
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/bristol-mp-stephen-williams-claims-somali/story-25928511-detail/story.html
A correction - my mistake.
DeleteStephen Williams was the former MP for Bristol West.
Robin I was under the impression that Solicitors duties were to the Court first and foremost before their clients. Something similar applies to CIPD members who must put their duties to the Court before those of their employers.
ReplyDeleteEveryone knows that Mair was guilty of murdering Mrs Cox, but surely the solicitors had a duty to tell the Prosecution that his mental health problems contributed greatly to his carrying out the murder. Dissimulation is a form of deception both of which prove that the Prosecution and his defence lawyer practiced and therefore mislead the Court. This case yet again highlights the UKs failure at dealing with mental health problems and that multiculturalism is the root cause of most of them.
Francis
Only if Mair gave permission for this evidence to be introduced could it be introduced. Try not to see conspiracies everywhere. The lawyers did what they could constrained by their codes of conduct and their client.
DeleteI've been reading about the Lib Dems by election triumph in Richmond Park.
ReplyDeleteWhat I am noticing is that the pro EU vote is going to the Lib Dems while the Leave vote is going to UKIP and nationalists. I am not at all surprised that Sarah Only won because 70℅ of the constituency voted Remain in June and she managed to court the Remain vote. Labour being the awful jihadi Anglophobic and anti Semites deservedly fell and lost their deposit.
Here in the Leave supporting North East the European Liberal Democrats are targeting the Remain Labour voters while UKIP are wooing the Leave supporting Labour voters.
Labour are dying and look like we will see them wiped out as a political force in England for good.
I really do believe that a realignment of politics is happening with Liberal Democrats becoming the pro EU establishment centre left party and UKIP/nationalism replacing the Tories.
Francis
There was a comment yesterday, I am not sure who from, about London Remainers sneering at Northern Brexiters. That will be the cosmopolitan elites and those of immigrant "heritage", sneering at those English who are still attached to their native soil.
DeleteSomalis in the news
ReplyDeletehttp://nationalvanguard.org/2016/12/minneapolis-somalis-rampage-through-white-neighborhood-threatening-kidnap-and-rape/
https://codoh.com/library/document/4152/
ReplyDeleteAs well, November 19, Chabloz received a court summons to appear in front of Westminster Magistrates Court in a private prosecution brought against her by Gideon Falter, director of UK registered "charity" Campaign Against Antisemitism.
The hearing will take place at 10am on December 15.
Meantime no action from the CPS:
http://thetab.com/uk/goldsmiths/2015/05/27/kill-all-white-men-officer-stays-put-after-no-confidence-vote-flops-968
"Mustafa is under investigation by police for her comments on Facebook and Twitter, after she said 'kill all white men'."
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/bahar-mustafa-crown-prosecution-service-now-to-review-decision-to-drop-charges-over-racist-tweet-row-a3105781.html
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/mer-goldsmiths-diversity-officer-bahar-mustafa-handed-court-summons-over-racist-tweet-a3084046.html
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/goldsmiths-diversity-officer-bahar-mustafa-accused-of-bullying-and-harassment-a3119256.html
AG/DPP need to be leant on.