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Friday 27 December 2013

SPECIAL RIGHTS for Muslims?


I have sometimes been asked if Muslims have actually asked for special legal treatment.  The Article below is an example of an influential Muslim doing so but it is quite subtle.
 

The article is from the “Huffington Post” an online news agency well known in America for its Left/Liberal bias but in the ‘UK’ its political editor is the BBC's favourite Leftist/Islamist, Mehdi Hasan, who seems here to be giving his views on us infidels.  Click here >>> Mehdi Hasan - Non Muslims live like animals - YouTube and here he is talking about the Shiite Islamic equivalent of Judas in which he seems to demonise gays >>> ?MehdiHasanYazidHomoKaffir - YouTube.  If the "hate crime" law was equally applied I would have expected Mr Hasan to have been at least considered for prosecution over these comments, wouldn't you?

It should therefore not be surprising that this Leftist online news outlet edited by an Islamist is vocal in its support of the ‘UK’s’ “Islamic Community”(sic!).

As journalists often do, Mehdi weaves into his story a source that he approves of  “Tell Mama” but which has been exposed as being just as unreliable a source as he is himself! For revelations about “Tell Mama” and its leader who is quoted so approvingly by Mehdi Hassan, click here >>>The truth about the 'wave of attacks on Muslims’ after Woolwich murder - Telegraph

The thrust of Mehdi's article is that “Hate Crime” against Muslims should be punished with especially severe criminal sanctions.

Actually such “hate crime” already is treated more severely than anyone applying ordinary common sense, or indeed ordinary legal principles, would think appropriate if, but only if, it is committed by English people against any other ethnic minority group or individual.  Also consider the BBC's reaction to criticism over a more significant, deliberate and calculated blasphemy against Jesus Christ >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7128552.stm.

It should also be borne in mind that “hate crime” can often mean merely a rude remark rather than any sort of violent attack.

In my view the old playground adage of “sticks and stone may break my bones but words will never hurt me!” should be the start point for any contemplated prosecution (or conviction) for, often trivial, rudeness.

However, if that rudeness spills over into physical aggression or threats of violence, then of course I would support punishment but focussed only on what has actually happened not as a result of a sort of witch trial, otherwise it is the State itself which becomes the instrument of victimisation!  (No doubt to the pleasure of people like Mehdi Hasan)!

What do you think?
(Note the startling, but no doubt deliberate, confusion of a building with people and the extent of the group allegedly "targeted" in "When you target a mosque, you are targeting the whole community.")



Here is the "Huffington Post" Article:-

Hate Crimes Against Muslims Soar After Woolwich Murder Of Lee Rigby


Hate crimes against Muslims have soared in 2013, new figures have shown. Hundreds of anti-Muslim offences have been carried out across the country in 2013, with Britain's biggest force, the Metropolitan police, recording 500 Islamophobic crimes alone.


Many forces reported a surge in the number of anti-Muslim hate crimes following the murder of soldier Lee Rigby by two Islamic extremists in Woolwich, south-east London. And it is feared the figures could be much higher after nearly half of the 43 forces in England and Wales did not reveal how many hate crimes had targeted Muslims - with some forces admitting they do not always record the faith of a religious hate crime victim.


Freedom of Information requests were sent by the Press Association to every police force in England and Wales. Of the 43 forces, 24 provided figures on the number of anti-Muslim crimes and incidents recorded. Tell Mama, a group which monitors anti-Muslim incidents, said it had dealt with some 840 cases since April - with the number expected to rise to more than 1,000 by the end of March.


This compared with 582 anti-Muslim cases it dealt with from March 2012 to March 2013. Fiyaz Mujhal, director of Faith Matters, which runs the Tell Mama project, said reaction to the murder of Fusilier Rigby had caused the number of Islamophobic crimes to "significantly jump". He added: "The far right groups, particularly the EDL (English Defence League) perniciously use the internet and social media to promote vast amounts of online hate."


Mujhal said tougher sentencing was needed to tackle Islamophobic crime and branded guidelines by the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) to monitor social media as "not fit for purpose". He said: "They raised the bar of prosecution significantly. Now unless there is a direct threat to somebody on Twitter or Facebook, the CPS will not prosecute. The CPS is just plainly out of sync with reality.


"We also need more robust sentencing. In one case, a pig's head was left outside a mosque and the perpetrator came away with a community sentence. When you target a mosque, you are targeting the whole community."


Tell Mama has called for police forces to introduce a system which improves monitoring of Islamophobic crimes, after some forces admitted officers do not always record the faith of a religious hate crime victim.
"There are three problems we come across," Mujhal said. "Firstly, there is a lack of understanding of the language of Islamophobia thrown at victims in any incidents. Secondly, there is very little training on how to ask relevant questions to pull out anti-Muslim cases. Thirdly, recording processes are not in line with each other. One force will allow an officer to flag an incident as anti-Muslim, another force will flag it as religious hate crime. There is no uniformity. There must be guidelines for all forces so we can know the level of the problem."


The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) has previously said 71 incidents were reported to its national community tension team (NCTT) over five days after Fusilier Rigby was murdered on May 22. Superintendent Paul Giannasi, Acpo's spokesman on hate crime, said: "The police service is committed to reducing the harm caused by hate crime and it is vital that we encourage more victims who suffer crimes to report them to the police or through third party reporting facilities such as Tell Mama.


"Acpo has played a key role in improving reporting mechanisms, including through the development of our True Vision website (www.report-it.org.uk). This provides information to victims and allows people to report online. We would obviously want overall crime levels to reduce and to see fewer victims, but we welcome increases in reported hate crime, as long as they are a sign of increased confidence of victims to report. We are working with local police forces, to help improve the way we respond to hate crime and to provide robust and transparent hate crime data."


A Ministry of Justice spokesman said: "These are despicable crimes that devastate lives and communities. The courts already hand out tougher punishments where race or religion are found to be aggravating factors. The number of people receiving a custodial sentence for these appalling crimes is higher than ever before."


A CPS spokeswoman said: "Online communication can be offensive, shocking or in bad taste. However, as set out in CPS guidelines on prosecuting cases involving communications sent via social media, content has to be more than simply offensive to be contrary to the criminal law. In order to preserve the right to free speech the threshold for prosecution must be high and only communications that are grossly offensive, indecent, obscene or false are prohibited by the legislation."

(Here is the link to the original article >>>Hate Crimes Against Muslims Soar After Woolwich Murder Of Lee Rigby)

7 comments:

  1. no mention about Muslim hate crime then,whys Chaudhry still spouting hate speeches and not getting arrested ,

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  2. One must understand that Muslims are experts at denial, deflection and falsification of evidence.

    Ever wondered why we never hear about the Armenian Holocaust? What about the Jasenovac Death Camp where Bosnian Muslim SS Divisions chopped of the heads of 750000 inmates.

    Islam is a Machiavellian system that conceals its wrong doings by deflecting blame onto others.

    The UK has been allies of Islam since the days of Disreali when it was decided to start removing Islam's 1400 year Jihad from the history books.

    It has been proven time and time again that genocide deniers are likely to repeat their evil over and over again. We have been warned.

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  3. my dog was attacked by a group of Muslim youths. i reported it but absolutely nothing was done about it. they threatened to cut her throat and kicked her. they spat on her. they called her haram . this was yet another hate crime unreported by our police. we need to insist on these crimes being recorded. my dog is a tiny 10 lb SHIH Tzu . she also is black so haram.

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  4. i have known english people who have denied being capable of hate crime
    and lied] to the police force when questioned... he will know who he is.
    followed me to my house nearby to his own house. he said that he would break my partners neck who was at work that actual time.. we were victimised by him. he said that he would put me in the hospital. and this man was his words a romany gypsy.. so much for zero tolerance towards tenants. complete rubbish.. why cant all religions live in there own , and leave us to live peacefully. huh ?

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  5. The evidence against the arguments for the multiculturalists are so compelling I fear that when the camel's back breaks there will be terrible violence.

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    1. Pat Buchanan has said that uncontrolled multiculturalism will bring down Western Civilisation. He knows that within a few short decades Europeans in the US , who once constituted the overhwelming majority, will be reduced to minority status. As in Birmingham, white children there are already in the minority.

      The same pattern is to be repeated in France, the Netherlands, Sweden and Norway and somebody said Germany but I can't see how at present.

      Here I have a feeling that as the native English rapidly approach a minority, destined fro 2066, somebody is going to take up arms somewhere. Enoch Powell made the mistake of not realising that the English would just run away rather than seek any confrontation. Unlike the French the English are terrified of confrontation. I blame the Normans. And as Trevor Phillips has found out with horror, we are running to areas where we are still in the majority. This is human nature. Russia Today described this as seeking the comfort zone. People are much happier when they feel secure and not threatened and all over the world this is generally when they are living with their own kind.

      I am just churning my way through a Jo Nesbo detective novel that someboy has lent me. It is pretty gruesome reading but I noted that Harry Hole's father, Olav, who is dying of cancer has expressed the wish to be buried in his home town of Andelsnes.
      This is because he wants to be buried with his own tribe. He said we all belong to a tribe. Yes, we all want to belong in a tribe and a homeland where we can feel safe and secure behind our borders. The Left are too childish and dim to have worked this out. Enoch, who set no time limit on his predictions, did. And the likes of Cameron probably do but just hope they will be worth a billion like Blair and can make a swift exit before the balloon goes up.

      As for Blair, poor silly people of Sedgefield who kept pinning a red rosette on a donkey. Wasn't Donkey Blair's nickname? Still, faced with the likes of Thatcher, Cameron or Osborn, they didn't have much choice did they?

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  6. This guy was on Christmas (is that halaal or haraam?) University Challenge. I wonder if his team-mates (or Mr Politically Correct Paxman) knew that he considers them to "live like animals"?
    I have long been of the view that "Political Correctness" has nothing to do with "not offending" people. (Offence is taken, not given.) No. The purpose of Political Correctness is to stifle debate. If someone speaks out about homosexuality, he is labelled "homophobic", by the Politically Correct. If he speaks out about immigration, he's labelled "xenophobic" and if he speaks out about Islam, then he's "Islamophobic".
    It is probably safe to say the more than 99% of muslims are very nice people, more than 99% of the time. The difficulties arise with the other, less than 1% of muslims, and the other, less than 1% of the time.
    With regard to the <1% of muslims, they believe that their purpose in life is to commit or to encourage other muslims to commit acts of barbarism in the name of their God. They believe that their Holy Book, the Koran authorises them to behave in this way. The best we can expect from the >99% of nice Muslims, is to ptotest that such behaviour is "not Islamic".
    As regards the Jerry Springer thing, the do-gooding commentator from Liberty described the judgement preventing a prosecution for blasphemy as "a blow to bigotry". Would he have been of the same view if the prophet Mohammed had been the guest on the Jerry Springer Show? Unlikely. He'd have sided with the outraged muslims. Interestingly, the Archbishop of Westminster in, his Christmas address, described Christianity as the most persecuted religion.
    Andrew Gilligan's article effectively debunked the talk of "waves of persecution". However, like the politically correct political elite, it failed to address the fundamental question. "Why is it only Muslims who commit acts of atrocity in the name of their God?"
    Hindus don't do it, Buddhists don't do it. Only Muslims do.
    The Moral High-Ground. Flying aeroplanes into tall buildings. Blowing up a London bus and Undergound train. Strapping explosives to yourself, then blowing you and a market-place full of people up. Mowing down an unarmrmed man in the street then hacking him to death. Storming a shopping-precinct and killing non-Muslims whilst offering Muslims safe passage outside - all in the name of your God. Only Muslims do that and the nice Muslims pose as victims instead of marching the hate-preachers out of their mosques and down to the local police station.

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