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Here are the draft Grounds:-
IN THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE
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Here are the draft Grounds:-
IN THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE
ADMINISTRATIVE
COURT
BETWEEN
THE QUEEN
ON THE APPLICATION OF THE ENGLISH DEMOCRATS
(REG. NO. 6132268)
Applicant
-and-
THE PRIME MINISTER (1)
THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR EXITING THE EUROPEAN
UNION (2)
Respondents
________________________________
GROUNDS OF THE APPLICATION
_________________________________
1.
It is submitted that the United Kingdom
of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has left the European Union as of the 29th
March 2019 after the expiry of its two year Notice to Leave dated 29th
March 2017.
2.
Much of the relevant law has been
explored and ruled upon by this Honourable Court and by the Court of Appeal and
by the Supreme Court in the case of R (on the application of Miller and another) – v
– Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union [2017] UKSC5. Consequently Parliament enacted the European
Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017.
3.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland joined
the European Union pursuant to Treaty in 1972 and subsequently the European
Union Act 1972 was enacted to give domestic legal force to the Treaty
obligations to the European Union.
4.
The current overarching constitution of the European Union was
reformed under the Lisbon Treaty which was brought into direct legal force in
the United Kingdom pursuant to the European Union (Amendment) Act 2008.
5.
Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty
reads as follows:-
“Article 50 – Treaty on European Union (TEU)
1.
Any Member State may decide to withdraw
from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.
2.
A Member State which decides to
withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by
the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with
that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of
the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in
accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European
Union. It shall be concluded on behalf
of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining
the consent of the European Parliament.
3.
The Treaties shall cease to apply to
the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal
agreement or, failing that, two years after notification referred to in
paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State
concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
4.
For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3,
the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the
withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the
European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article
238(3(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
5.
If a State which has withdrawn from the
Union asked to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to
in Article 49.”
6.
On the 23rd June 2016 the
voters of the United Kingdom, by a majority, and the voters of England by a
larger majority, voted, in the largest
democratic mandate in the United Kingdom’s history, to leave the European
Union.
7.
In accordance with the United Kingdom’s
“Constitutional Requirements” Parliament enacted the European Union
(Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017.
The Preamble to that Act states that it is:- “An Act to confer power on
the Prime Minister to notify, under Article 50(2) of the Treaty on European
Union, the United Kingdom’s intention to withdraw from the EU”
The Act provides:-
“1. Power to notify withdrawal from the EU
(1)
The Prime Minister may notify, under
Article 50(2) of the Treaty on European Union, the United Kingdom’s intention
to withdraw from the EU.”
8.
Pursuant to the statutory power granted
by the European Withdrawal Act 2017 the Prime Minister duly served the Notice
on 29th March 2017. That
Notice expired on the 29th March 2019.
9.
Accordingly it is submitted that as of
the scintilla temporis after the expiry of the said notice on the 29th
March 2019, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has left
the European Union.
10.
In the European Union Withdrawal Act
2018 Parliament further enacted a transitional scheme whereby it proposed to
transpose all EU law into a direct effect in the UK jurisdictions of Northern
Ireland, Scotland and England and Wales.
Much of that Act has not been brought into force. The Act mis-describes its implementation date
as “exit day”. This is something of a
misnomer since under the true construction of this Act it has no role, either
purported or implicit, in determining the date of departure of the UK leaving
the European Union. Within the meaning
of the Act, “exit date” is merely the implementation date for the Act’s transactional
arrangements.
11.
The Applicant is aware that there has
been purported ministerial Regulation under the 2018 Act which may have been
approved by resolution in both Houses.
However even if it has, it is submitted that such a Regulation cannot of
itself be in any way definitive of the UK’s actual departure from the European
Union. The relevant wording of the Act
makes this clear:-
“European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018
An act to repeal the European
Communities Act 1972 and make other provision in connection with the withdrawal
of the United Kingdom from the EU.
[26th June 2018]
1 Repeal of the
European Communities Act 1972
The European Communities Act 1972 is
repealed on exit day.
2 Saving for
EU-derived domestic legislation
(1) EU-derived domestic legislation, as
it has effect in domestic law immediately before exit day, continues to have
effect in domestic law on and after exit day.
20 Interpretation
(1) In this Act—
“exit day” means 29 March 2019 at 11.00
p.m. (and see subsections (2) to (5));
(2) In this Act references to before,
after or on exit day, or to beginning with exit day, are to be read as references
to before, after or at 11.00 p.m. on 29 March 2019 or (as the case may be) to
beginning with 11.00 p.m. on that day.
(3) Subsection (4) applies if the day
or time on or at which the Treaties are to cease to apply to the United Kingdom
in accordance with Article 50(3) of the Treaty on European Union is different
from that specified in the definition of “exit day” in subsection (1).
(4) A Minister of the Crown may by
regulations—
(a) amend the definition of “exit day”
in subsection (1) to ensure that the day and time specified in the definition
are the day and time that the Treaties are to cease to apply to the United
Kingdom, and
(b) amend subsection (2) in consequence
of any such amendment.”
12.
Despite the express wording of the European
Union (Notification f Withdrawal) Act 2017, expressly only empowering the Prime
Minister to give Notice to withdraw the United Kingdom from the EU, the Prime
Minister has purported to request an extension of the Article 50 date for
departure and subsequently purported to agree an extension to the date of
departure.
13.
It is submitted, in accordance with
long and high authority of legal precedents and also recently and
comprehensively in R (on the application of Miller and another) – v – Secretary of
State for Exiting the European Union [2017] UKSC5 that, statute fully displaces
any residual prerogative powers.
14.
In the premises the only power that the Prime Minister had, as
regards Article 50, was the service of the Notice withdrawing the
United Kingdom from the EU and giving two years notice. That power was functus officio on the 29th
March 2017. Accordingly, her purported request for an extension of the date of
departure and the Government’s purported agreement to such an extension is and
was unlawful and is and was null and void.
15.
In the premises the Applicant seeks a
Declaration from this Honourable Court that the United Kingdom of Great Britain
and Northern Ireland left the European Union upon the expiry of the Article 50
Notice on the 29th March 2019.
Statement of Fact
I believe that the facts in these Grounds are true.
Signed ………………………………… Dated
……………………..
Robin Charles William
Tilbrook
I really hope you can do this. The government has made a mockery of the democratic decision our country made by ignoring the will of the people. Best of luck to you.
ReplyDeleteHear Hear
DeleteIt will only happen if enough people support it by donating and sharing around social media. Robin needs help with court costs now
DeleteEverybody please keep pushing this link all over the internet. More publicity the more funds available I have been sharing this link continuous on Facebook all WE Please Others on Twitter or the like 1)o likewise.
DeleteToo true and here is one that will. As much as I can afford
Deletei hope and pray this comes to fruition as im afraid of what may happen if not
DeleteNothing in the media, I found out by chance. I'm not sure you have much of a case but it must be tested. I was told the case began yesterday but can't find any reports at all.
DeleteYou are correct
DeleteWell done Sir. Some affirmative action on behalf of your nation. It is a wonderful thing to behold in the midst of all the current chaos.
DeleteYou are our only hope on this earth I think. Thankyou for standing up for what is right ( in the spirit of St. George ! ) I will donate my widows mite.
DeleteI UNDER STAND THE SUPREME COURT OF JUSTICE IS FOR DEMOCRACY FREEDOM TO VOTE.FREEDOM FOR THE PEOPLE.WITHOUT THIS BE KNOW GENERAL ELECTIONS.NO MPS NO PARLIAMENT JUST HOUSE OF LORDS.did Theresa May as prime minister sign the artical 50 was this paper taken to Brussels,was it Signed there and Brought Back to Parliament Showing we Leave Europe at 11 00 PM On the 29 MARCH 2019 .Correct is this what they are Now Reading in the Supreme Court of Justice Right Now
Deletemy understanding is that the EU were NOT unanimous in fact there were at least 3 abstentions.
ReplyDeleteAbstentions are not votes against. They are the absence of a vote. If all votes are 'for' then it's unanimous.
DeleteUnanimous means all votes cast in the same direction.
DeleteIf there are no opposing votes, but some abstain, the vote should be recorded "nem con" which is not what Lisbon Treaty Article 50.3 says.
All relevant EU statements I recall refer to "the 27 remaining members"
My understanding is; The Art 50 extension request needed a vote of approval from all 27 states according to EU law. Only one veto would prevent approval. On the day four countries wete intending to veto, so the vote was never taken. This is why the debate overran into late evening. The fudge they decided on was for Tusk to offer May an extension informally on condition that the EU received a written agreement from the U.K. Gov. That’s where May and her advisors, in their haste, forgot about the Gina Miller Law and used Executive Powers, hence this case.
DeleteI read that Hungary wasn't allowed to vote, if that's true it couldn't be unanimous.
DeleteI think this Judge agrees with you http://tapnewswire.com/2019/03/judge-declares-brexit-delay-illegal/
ReplyDeleteTrue!..
ReplyDeleteI sincerely hope this is passed by the Court that we have already left the EU!...:)..
All I know it was the law to leave on the 29 march 2019 and we did not ,,to me the law has been broken and yes I agree they should be accountable the law is the law
ReplyDeleteI hope and pray you win and democracy will prevail although I doubt it.
DeleteI hope this is passed and those retched traitors in parliament can then be thrown out of office in a general election where we can dispose of them.
Deleteas long as the Labour traitors do not get in using postal votes from muslims - come on Nige
DeleteGood Luck and a fair wind to see it through the Courts.
ReplyDeleteWe must do something about this lying and corrupt Government. I'm disgusted that they are being allowed to break the Law. I knew it wasn't legal and had wondered why no one did anything before. Why people like Mogg Boris or Owen never took action before?
ReplyDeleteIf this is not a scam, I will gladly donate !
ReplyDeleteIt is not i have donated
DeleteI don't think it is...Bill cash posted a letter on Twitter that he sent to the PM stating these exact same facts. He also brought it up on Friday before the vote in the HoC. Check out Bill Cash's twitter or web page if he has one. He is chair of the European Scrutiny Committee I think.
DeleteI have donated, it's not a scam.
DeleteExcellent!
ReplyDeleteOnly if you help the cause!!!!!
DeleteAnother side to free speech, this will not be aired from state tv. Free speech is free speech no matter who you are. The balance has tipped too far over for our lives sakes. I hope this helps tip back to reality not fantasy. Cross party support or new parties will be next.
ReplyDeleteI fully support this
ReplyDeleteBut did you DONATE??????
DeleteIf laws can be dismissed so easily,what is the point of parliament
ReplyDeleteIt's called the separation of powers. It keeps a curb on government excess. If we had a constitution like America it would happen a lot more here.
DeleteHas this paper now been submitted
ReplyDeleteYes last Monday!
DeleteGood luck, really hop you can do this.
ReplyDeleteBut have you donated?
DeleteGood luck, really hope you can do this.
ReplyDeleteI consider the UK to be out of the EU @ 29 march 2019.
ReplyDeleteSo do I. I really need to know what has happened, or when it will happen, in the Court. What is the update please?
DeleteThe court respond as to progress of the case on 17th April next.
DeleteBut have you donated?
Deletesorry i could only donate a pound, all i have left for groceries is a tenner until i get paid again
ReplyDeleteBless You----read about the widow's Mite Mark 12:42
DeleteBless you from Canada.
DeleteBrilliant !
ReplyDeleteHope your right....
ReplyDeleteHe is, so go and donate. From Canada.
DeleteWe give yo the right to use the money allocated to the corrupt Clinton Foundation to use for this bill
ReplyDeleteExcellent and fully support this
ReplyDeleteBut have you donated? From Canada.
DeleteLeave is what was promised and leave it should have been on March 29th 2019.
ReplyDeleteGood Luck Robin and your Counsel , all Leavers in the UK are behind you.
ReplyDeleteBut, But have you donated? From Canada.
DeleteGood luck and thank you.
ReplyDeleteGood luck my friend, how do I donate
ReplyDeleteWell done Richard , you have made me proud to be British
ReplyDeleteHas the Prime Minister broken the law?
ReplyDeleteWhere do i donate ?
ReplyDeleteDonations can be made through the link at the top of this page.
DeleteOn their website: https://www.englishdemocrats.party/donate
Deletei will be happy to donate
ReplyDeleteWhere can I donate towards costs please. Thank you
ReplyDeletePlease send a "donate" link
ReplyDeleteI will share it on my Facebook and Twitter page after donating myself
You can donate through the link at the top of this page (English Democrats Party) or use PayPal.me/englishdemocrats
DeleteGreat work. Thank you. Good luck
ReplyDeleteI only earn minimum wage but where can I donate. Thank you for fighting for democracy.
ReplyDeletePayPal.me/englishdemocrats
DeleteWell done and good luck.
ReplyDeleteWell done and good luck.
ReplyDeleteI pray this attempt for justice is sucsessful
ReplyDeleteTypo in para 3. Should be ECA1972. Good luck
ReplyDeleteAbout time honesty won over tyranny
ReplyDeleteAbout time honesty won over tyrrany
ReplyDeleteAbout time honesty won over tyranny
ReplyDeleteAbout time democracy won over tyranny
ReplyDeleteWishing you every success sir.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I am concerned, we left and are now OUT...Horray ! I speak for the millions of those who do not voice themselves.
ReplyDeleteGood luck we need to be out
ReplyDeleteWell done Richard and good luck.
ReplyDeleteDonated & joined, keep up the fight
ReplyDeleteVery well done sir!
ReplyDeleteWill the Queen take notice - of her own Law? http://www.sxolsout.org.uk/zreal1.html
ReplyDeleteWell done.we voted leave eu
ReplyDeleteThe Law is The Law. As a believer in the rule of Law, I agree that our Country is now no longer a member of the European UNION, and must proceed as such. Good Luck with this legal challenge to the unfortunate situation our Government has created.
ReplyDeleteWhat’s the latest. Is everything submitted and good to go.
ReplyDeleteGood luck, stick it up um!
ReplyDeleteA breath of fresh air, and hope. Good luck ..we need you.
ReplyDeleteGood luck...praying for the right result
ReplyDeleteI don't think the extension of article 50 was put before the Queen therfore we should of left on the 29th of march
ReplyDeleteI'M NOT PAYING FOR WHAT I'M ENTITLED TO FOR NOTHING.
ReplyDeleteThis is huge. Even if they pretend they haven't left it is legally recorded here.
ReplyDeleteBrittania no longer rules the waves ... She waives the rules !!
ReplyDeleteWe should suggest that some of the £39million that will be saved be used to fund this deserving cause
ReplyDeletewe just want to get out the little things will be alright in the end
ReplyDeleteI wish you every success with this.
ReplyDeletei hope this is true
ReplyDeleteHope you win your case best wishes WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP FOR FREEDOM
ReplyDeleteA.T. Culwick got there first in 1963 @anon but yes, it;s still true!
ReplyDeletetypo:
12. Despite the express wording of the European Union (Notification [o]f
14. functus officio on ...
a person can be functus officio but can a power be? meaning fully and finally discharged
Thank you for taking this matter up legally. It's unclear if the UK government has passed the amendment to 'update' the bill to the new date, but I would argue, even if they had, by retroactively changing the date, what was presented by the government originally is substantially different from what was presented in the amendment, effectively like a trojan horse bill, and demands an entirely separate bill.
ReplyDeleteWhat MPs originally voted on was a fixed, stationary date of 29th March, and nowhere in the bill did it make allusions to an extension or possible extension. By introducing an amendment that changes the date - the key focal point of the bill (meaningless without the fixed date) - what the government have done (different from Parliament) is subvert and mislead MPs on the original intentions of the bill. MPs voted explicitly on a fixed date, not a moving date, and by changing the date, it undermines explicitly what they voted on.
Imagine if an MP voted on a prison bill that said 'give a murderer a life sentence', and the government then put out an amendment to say 'give a murderer no punishment', the outcome is the crux of why the rest of the bill was voted on.
Effectively, the government have gotten people to pass the Withdrawl Act 2017 by deceiving them into thinking March 29th was a fixed date (written down in law) and then by changing it at the last minute under pressure, undermining MPs democratic efforts by saying that date is no longer fixed. MPs voted on a fixed date, not a roving date.
Best of british luck to you
ReplyDelete29th March was the date chosen so we left then as far as I’m concerned.
ReplyDeleteGet a petition going also with this point. If it goes viral they will have to take notice.
ReplyDeleteWhen does it go before a court?
ReplyDeleteDear Robin
ReplyDeleteThe racketeer and gangster Al Capone avoided conviction for everything except Tax Evasion, but on a grand enough scale to see him put away for 11 years and, for that time, fined a massive amount too. And he died soon after being released from prison.
There's often more than one way to skin a cat if you have the knowledge and lateral thinking ability to work it out.
17.4 million people, and a few million more who've converted to the cause since 2016, are right behind you. All strength to your arm, Robin.
Your knighthood awaits. (But you'll have a richly deserved donation from me today!)
Kind regards
Trevor Clark
Twitter: @g2fOUT
Dear Robin
ReplyDeleteThe racketeer and gangster Al Capone avoided conviction for everything except Tax Evasion, but on a grand enough scale to see him put away for 11 years and, for that time, fined a massive amount too. And he died soon after being released from prison.
There's often more than one way to skin a cat if you have the knowledge and lateral thinking ability to work it out.
17.4 million people, and a few million more who've converted to the cause since 2016, are right behind you. All strength to your arm, Robin.
Your knighthood awaits. (But you'll have a richly deserved donation from me today!)
Kind regards
Trevor Clark
Twitter: @g2fOUT
Dear Robin
ReplyDeleteThe racketeer and gangster Al Capone avoided conviction for everything except Tax Evasion, but on a grand enough scale to see him put away for 11 years and, for that time, fined a massive amount too. And he died soon after being released from prison.
There's often more than one way to skin a cat if you have the knowledge and lateral thinking ability to work it out.
17.4 million people, and a few million more who've converted to the cause since 2016, are right behind you. All strength to your arm, Robin.
Your knighthood awaits. (But you'll have a richly deserved donation from me today!)
Kind regards
Trevor Clark
Twitter: @g2fOUT
Dear Robin
ReplyDeleteThe racketeer and gangster Al Capone avoided conviction for everything except Tax Evasion, but on a grand enough scale to see him put away for 11 years and, for that time, fined a massive amount too. And he died soon after being released from prison.
There's often more than one way to skin a cat if you have the knowledge and lateral thinking ability to work it out.
17.4 million people, and a few million more who've converted to the cause since 2016, are right behind you. All strength to your arm, Robin.
Your knighthood awaits. (But you'll have a richly deserved donation from me today!)
Kind regards
Trevor Clark
Twitter: @g2fOUT
This challenge is the most straightforward one available and stands a chance of succeeding [in theory at least]. It is a respectable argument based on the Gina Miller case.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to know more legal reasons to challenge what is happening some can be read here - but not as straightforward as Robin Tilbrook's case:
https://tinyurl.com/y439q4ap
EU Illegal Brexit Tactics – Invalidation of Brexit Withdrawal Treaty – Business Can Sue February 27, 2019 [Updated 16/3/2019]
Leading economists and even Mervyn King have confimred that we leave the EU. A clean break is best for the UK.
ReplyDeleteGo on guys you are doing a great democratic service to this country and should be heard immediately.
ReplyDeleteThe government are lying and claiming otherwise, breaking their own laws. This is one of the smaller lies told about Brexit. Good luck with the case and I'll help any way I can. Brexit NOW! Brexit HARD!
ReplyDeleteAre the two leading political parties guilty of electoral fraud in not taking us out of the EU
ReplyDeleteA knighthood for sir robin! Hope so he deserves it.
ReplyDeleteA LORDSHIP !
DeleteWhat about this ? http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2019/9780111184622
ReplyDeleteRead the information, that’s covered.
DeleteGood Luck. i really hope this does it and we have left the EU. The majority of our government have gone rogue and it needs to be dealt with. so hears hoping.
ReplyDeleteAll Brexiteers will donate at least a £ then that would cover the legal costs So lets get behind this so we can have our Democracy Restored
ReplyDeleteI have first-hand experience of just how corrupt the High Court and Court of Appeal are when it comes to fighting the corrupt government.
ReplyDeleteThe beauty of this case is its simplicity in citing Gina Miller. Even so, I expect the bent judges in the bent courts will side with the bent government. The courts just simply ignore what is plainly written in law in black and white when it doesn't suit their establishment chums.
I agree that the High Court and Court of Appeal are thoroughly corrupt and that is the problem. Maybe Robin should start proceedings in a neutral Court so start proceedings in Russia.
DeleteThe English and Welsh legal system is skewed in favour of minorities, their interests and against the indigenous English and other white Britons.
Brexit is the first but vitally important step to solving our problems.
At this stage the EU is beginning to realise that the remainers here are a liability to them and are seriously going to cut their losses soon. The remainers know this and are getting worried.
francis
Hope this works out, wonderful if we have left on the 29th. Parliament has ignored the people that voted for them. Time to clean up the rabble.
ReplyDeleteWe need to leave the corrupt EU.
ReplyDeleteHope this works the law is the law Bill Cash stood up in parlement & made the same points but was rebuffed even sneared at by remainers Jeffrey Cox must know so is he guilty.for miss leading parlement
ReplyDeleteGood luck the law is the law Jeffrey Cox must know if it's legal or not ?
ReplyDeleteWe were never lawfully entered into the EU, so our EU membership was always null and void, the signed document signed by Ted Heath was signed and then locked in a safe for 30 years so that we would never know the truth until it was too late, that's the level of corruption we are dealing with, we were coerced into entering into the EU and the sovereign people were misled into believing we we entering into the EEC for trading purposes.
ReplyDeleteRobin, can you please give short daily updates? This allows us to continually post to social media and request support and donations...
ReplyDeleteWishing you the best of luck, it’s about time, someone seen sense and got us out, what the hell is this government playing at, they are supposed to respect the referendum, as stated by all mps,at the start. Just because it did not go there way, OUT is for the best.
ReplyDeleteThank you, thank you, thank you, I will support whatever way I can. Ill donate too now. I've written to every Eu PM and every party here and continue to do so. OUT we won the vote to get OUT.
ReplyDeleteWhat was the outcome of yesterday's hearing.
ReplyDeleteLeave means leave i hope we win
ReplyDeleteHave Donated and circulating Your Legal Claim trying to ensure others do as well.
ReplyDeleteMy limited understanding is that what the EU offered in the Article 50 Extension was not legally binding in International Law and therefore even if Parliament advocates that EU Law supersedes UK Law, the UK acceptance of any Extension by the EU must not only be Lawful in International Law but also in UK Law. And using the Miller Case [Gina] as a precedent [Parliament is Sovereign and the Government is not] then
Parliament is the only conduit that is able make the request for any extension and must be done legally to stand.
The acceptance letter by the Government [Tim Barrow] was not a Legal Instrument and therefore the statute in UK Law being the Legally binding departure date of 29/3/2019 for Article 50 has been ignored by both parties.
I believe its well tested in International as well as UK Law that one can not break the rule of law to seek to gain or obtain enrichment by doing so.
So long as the UK Judiciary is still independent and not politicised then given the Miller precedent then I struggle to see how your Claim is not upheld
has this case been filed in the courts yet
ReplyDeleteWhat is the timescale for the process? Would have thought it quite urgent?
ReplyDeleteAnyone have an idea of the timescale for the process? Rather urgent I would have thought?
ReplyDeleteLooks black and white to me,I see it as We are out right now..
ReplyDeleteHave just put £1,000 in the pot to get us out of this farce...Go get them before its too late Robin Tilbrook and all Democrats!!
ReplyDeletePlease keep us updated we need to prove these parliamentary nit twits that they can’t break the law. Leave left now get all these lying vermin out
ReplyDeleteI have been writing to the Daily Telegraph forweeks making clear my view the failure to leave the EU on 29 March is in breach of the law and constitution and can be challenged in the courts. A valid Act of Parliament can not be set aside by parliamentary motions, however many or civerse, (nor can the EU cancel a law of the British parliament, least of all one they confirmed and accepted when itwqs past. While we remain in the EU they can over-rule our legislation ifit contradicts theirs but far from it doing so they agreed the law themselves. Only another Act of Parliament can cancel an Act. Een a"Statutary Istrument, which the Queen has no knowledge of - we are a Constitutional Monarchy, the EU hasnot cancelled our constitution, although theirclawsarecinbreqch of it andcalwayschavecbeen. When it became too late for such an Act to be passed before 29 March I atarted writing. Did they publish? No. All those party to the illegal remaining in the EU on 29 March are guilty of revolution and in olden times could be hanged drawn and quartered. As it is there is still a law making these acts treasonable. This is te greatest treasonsinceGuy Fawkes. Once found out it did not end well for him. Incidentally I am heading for 95 nd wasin the Foreign Office German department when all the minutes of the Franco-German negotiations for the European Coal and Steel Community were betrayed to MI6 by an ex Maquisard bureaucrat in the Quai d'Orsay horrified by the secretcNai cdicilsto destroy Great Britain by secretly subsidising each of their heavy industries in turn (war potential) in order to destroy ours. It hastaken themc50 years but wehavecbeen forced out of the old sunset industriew more cheaply doneby developing countriew with low wages and into the sunrise high tech industries, whilst Germany has stayed in the sunset industries and sels mostly to other EU countries.
ReplyDeleteWhen the prime Ministerc(Attlee) decided to do nothing about the minutes, saying countries afterdomination by dictatorships would beso pleased with democracythey woud confound the Franco Geman knavish tricks I resigned. I have recently been on Radio Freedom in California telling the USA this and on Google as "Witness to History"(25 inutes debating withEdward Spalton of Campaign for Independent Britain, CIB. Edward, a German speaker, has been to Berlin and copied the Nazi Constitution from the Nazi archive hiselfr nd ca ertify it is the same as theEU constitution, word for word.
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ReplyDeleteTo those asking the Exit Fight begins-https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6879215/English-Democrats-begin-court-battle-prove-UK-left-EU.html
ReplyDeleteTo those asking the Exit Fight begins-https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6879215/English-Democrats-begin-court-battle-prove-UK-left-EU.html
ReplyDeleteThe High Courts will just delay and delay putting costs up and up and up. Pure chicanery.
ReplyDeletefrancis
we all have posted this to twitter BBC and just about all the media we can think of so why is nothing coming back, I have sent the link to all the papers mail/sun ETC: and still nothing.
ReplyDeleteI think the papers are corrupt too. I have sent the link to BBC politics about 4 times now but as yet NO reply. we know why don't we. we urge you all to sent this link to @BBCPOLITICS the more they get may make them report about it or at least flood them out with it.
The Telegraph may assist as they have been somewhat supportive of Brexit, and aside from the Mail On-line its almost like MSM has a section D with regard to reporting on Robin's Case.
DeleteTry the Telegraph News desk, as aside from the Mail On-line its almost like a Section D reporting restriction is in place, but the
Deletetruth is that most of MSM is controlled.
Thank you, Robin. You'll be a national hero if this succeeds!
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The Exit Fight Begins- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6879215/English-Democrats-begin-court-battle-prove-UK-left-EU.html
ReplyDeleteGood luck i hope it works out do it for the british (people). This needs to be made more advetised,i only found out by somebody contacting me by personal means.
ReplyDeleteArticle 50.3
ReplyDelete3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
Article 50.4
4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
No mention of having to be ALL 27 members - just a qualified majority ��
Who drafted the Statutory Instrument extending the deadline to 12th April? Was it not drafted in haste and without proper ministerial authority? If so it has no standing and is therefore invalid.
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I have donated, surely 17 million of us could help with a pound. It would be worth every penny just to have tried.
ReplyDeletei donated a fiver well worth a shot we are being betrayed
DeleteDid Hitler support the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan? Or did he want to copy and modify it?
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I really hope this can be done and that the case does win but,I feel there are to many power crazy people in the establishment that are hell bent on Britain remaining in the EU.The only problem now is wether we stay or go Britain is the laughing stock of Europe and around the world.
ReplyDeleteBrexit is not accidently happenew by coincidence. People may think different by me of course and I understand. But my opinion is clear that only one and true God is the God of Holy Bible and UK is Protestant country. EU elite are Jesuits trying to destroy by any way all Protestant countries. Present EU is Satanic modern style Tower of Babel. So BREXIT is gift of the True Almighty God to the UK Protestant country to become free from Satanic Popish EU of Jesuits. Then remember IF THE ALMIGHTY GOD IS ON MY SIDE THIS COURT CASE BE SUCCESSFUL AND NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO STAND AGAINST IT TO WIN. I am supporting this Court case and I am Brexiter I BELIEVE 100% THAT THE ALMIGHTY GOD OF KJV HOLY BIBLE IS ON OUR SITE NOT ON SIDE OF PERVERTED GLOBALISTS MODERN ROMAN EMPIRE.
Deletei too thought this extension was unlawful and wondered whether it could be fought in the courts,it would be interesting to find out.
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm sure I don't understand the legal ramifications of this but anything that gets us out of the EU is good in my book.
ReplyDeleteI've chipped in my £25.00 and hope this outrageous insult to democracy can be rectified, and we can finally Leave !
Well, I'm sure I don't understand the legal ramifications of this but anything that gets us out of the EU is good in my book.
ReplyDeleteI've chipped in my £25.00 and hope this outrageous insult to democracy can be rectified, and we can finally Leave !
It seems to me that throughout history things have to be well and truly broken for change to occur. So here we are with the " good men" doing something!! Great Britain IS broken. May our donations however small help to fix it. Good on ya!!!
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me that throughout history things have to be well and truly broken for change to occur. So here we are with the " good men" doing something!! Great Britain IS broken. May our donations however small help to fix it. Good on ya!!!
ReplyDeleteFound this website when I was starting research for lodging a similar claim. Great to hear that there is already such a well thought out campaign. Can I just point out that Article 50 makes a clear distinction at point 4 between 'the council member representing the withdrawing state' and 'the withdrawing member state' as such Teresa May (who is the former) cannot act in fulfilment of any part of article 50 as if she were the latter. As such if you read point of article 50 you will see that agreement to any extension has to be by unanimous consensus between the council members (other than that of the withdrawing member state - as specified by point 4) AND the Withdrawing Member State. Therefore by virtue of the fact that TM is not the WMS and the fact that the Gina Miller case proved that government cannot act on behalf of the WMS in regard to point 2 without an act of parliament empowering government to do so, it would have required both the unanimous agreement of the European Council (which they had) AND an Act of UK Parliament empowering the government to seek and accept an extension to Article 50 (which they did not have) for an extension to be legally compliant with Article 50. As such I think it is clear that the European Council erred in believing that they had extended Article 50 just because the UK government(TM) agreed. As such Gina Miller has very successfully already very kindly proved that Brexit with No Deal has already happened. In regard to concerns about the government dragging this out and ramping up the costs - can I suggest that you look at representing yourself - that negates any threat of escalating legal costs and it is quite easy to do - I have done exactly that twice over the last 2 years and won both cases against the establishment (once when all legal advice claimed the case was unwinnable - even with legal representation). Would be happy to support and advise or to join as a parallel unrepresented litigant myself. Ian
ReplyDeleteI think your synopsis and the way the Claim has been framed are right on the money and in a fair and just world this claim would be upheld and out.
DeleteHowever, while I am a supporter and have donated, I have serious reservations that this will be played out on a fair and level; basis in that the Judiciary has been corrupted and is clearly politicised, even more so on such claims, and secondly I maybe wrong but I understand from very limited knowledge that this Claim is a ''Judicial Review'' application, and therefore its very restricted within the Frame works as to where it can actually go. Such applications are always very narrow and there is not much scope to expand.
The other concern is ''International Law'' which did not figure in the Miller case but hopefully based on the facts and justice prevailing then we are Out as 29/03/2019.
The day after the EU vote for the extension a message appeared on Facebook from the Hungarian president/Prime minister which disappeared very quickly. He was apologising for letting us down and stated that he was going to vote against the extension but he was stopped from voting. I got the impression that he was falsed to not to vote. Were we ever informed whether or not all 27 EU members voted for the extension. I have read that there were 2 other EU members that were stopped from voting against. Does anyone have any prove of this because this would also be unlawful. It only passes if all 27 countries vote to agree the extension..
ReplyDeleteI post regularly on Breitbart. There is another regular and reliable poster there who claims to be a personal friend of Matteo Salvini. He was adamant that Italy would vote against the extension. It seems me likely that there was no vote within the normal meaning of the word vote.
DeleteThere was a message on Facebook the next day which disappeared very quickly from the prime minister of Hungary apologising for letting us down over the extension on 29th March. He said he was giing to vote no to the extension but he was stopped from voting by the others (I was under the impression falsfully. I also read from a site that a couple of others were stopped from voting against the extension. If so this means that not all EU members voted, which is not allowed. Does anyone else know about or read about this, please let us know on here.
ReplyDeleteThere was a message on Facebook the next day which disappeared very quickly from the prime minister of Hungary apologising for letting us down over the extension on 29th March. He said he was giing to vote no to the extension but he was stopped from voting by the others (I was under the impression falsfully. I also read from a site that a couple of others were stopped from voting against the extension. If so this means that not all EU members voted, which is not allowed. Does anyone else know about or read about this, please let us know on here.
ReplyDeleteI think all the mp`s are corrupt and the BBC because if this was true why is this not world wide news, The BBC know about it , I and thousand more have sent info and links to the BBC but are ignoring it ? because the BBC are REMAIN, we have only got 2 papers that put a small piece in there column mail/express, I have sent links to France and to the president surprise surprise NO feed back. What ells can we do
ReplyDeletewe have no means of telling ALL the UK all about this only on social media but not all read Facebook/twitter or other sites
and time is running out, but what if we do remain and then we do find out this was unlawful WILL it be NULL AND VOID and we come out or will the EU say sorry you cannot now
Since the 1970s occupation of the Uk formed settlements for devolution and 2 years ago two sides went to war on Brexit, numerous MPs, including Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales escalated the need to LEAVE.. Under internatiinal law those REMAINERS after the 29th March 2019 occupation in the BREXIT debate is illegal, and, since Article 50 adopted an approach for the public on that date it must have confirmed that a singular chosen settlement rather than chaos of multiply settlements created boarders. VOTE LEAVE, let's do it asap and go forward in the principle of a two staged exit. GO NOW and let's the public rather than MP and BBC speak. If the LEAVE settlement wants to help REMAIN it can do at a later stage. But for now under international law REMAINERS have have no legal validity and pose a serious shame on the UK. If this shame happens then Article 50 must be illegal - begs the question - YOU DONT NEED A DEAL IF IT IS NOT NEEDED - I support this case.
ReplyDeleteSince the 1970s occupation of the Uk formed settlements Devolution happened and 2 years ago two sides went to war on Brexit, numerous MPs, including Scotland, Northern Ireland, England and Wales escalated the need to LEAVE for the accepted the romantic notion of one step away from EU and never to be them but accept them.
ReplyDeleteUnder internatiinal law those REMAINERS after the 29th March 2019 occupation of UK mainland in the BREXIT debate is illegal. The policy maker who created Article 50 adopted the approach for the public in one settlement on that date must leave. No other dates mentioned. That a singular chosen settlement called LEAVE rather than chaos of multiply settlements avoided creating unecessary boarders. So. VOTE LEAVE, let's do it asap and go forward in the principle of a two staged exit save money and finish it in 2 years.
GO NOW and let's the public rather than MP and BBC speak after all the Labour Party remain campus is embarrassing so much so it makes BBC reporting Laura Kuenssberg annoying.
If the LEAVE settlement wants to help REMAIN it can do at a later stage. But for now under international law REMAINERS have have no legal validity and pose a serious shame on the UK. If this shame happens then Article 50 must be illegal - begs the question how Labour Party is so politically poor and weak - YOU DONT NEED A DEAL IF IT IS NOT NEEDED.
I support this case. I voted labour but doubt that I will do in the future. No party is worth my vote.The second stage can be done in June 2022 when we all vote and EU will no doubt keep in touch offshore whilst they amend the Article 50 and other clauses.
How deliciously ironic that you cite the Miller case in support of your argument.
ReplyDeleteYes it is indeed but what is sauce for the Remain goose is sauce for the Brexit gander.
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Nothing on the BBC,Sky news but it seems the only channels that show it are the foreign channels.It also appears that next week several EU countries have to sell bonds to prop them up,Germany,France,SPain,Portugal,Italy. This is why they intend to keep us in the EU Just for our money.They will allow us to stay for the EU elections .Then they will change Article50 and we will be in for the next 5years.because TMay is a tratTr along with most of the MPs.Youhave only got to look at the South Wales elections results and see that UKIP quadrupled there votes.The Brexit Parties have 17% of the 35/45 million voters in the next GE so looking at it the cons and Lie.bor party are going to lose 6million votes amongst them.add that to the 17.4 million and out of the 620Ps now sitting ,only around 200 will be back.Please support all Brexit Parties by donating to theBrexit Party and English Democrats.Lets show them the Bulldog Spirit if the UK people
ReplyDeleteGo on to the Government Website to number 10 Downing Street and ask them why they have not replied to the Court Order by The English Democrats. I have done and asked why there is nothing on the News about it ? Let's block the website ,make sure the Referendum which they stated was once in a lifetime and the result would be accepted
ReplyDeleteGo on to the Government Website to number 10 Downing Street and ask them why they have not replied to the Court Order by The English Democrats. I have done and asked why there is nothing on the News about it ? Let's block the website ,make sure the Referendum which they stated was once in a lifetime and the result would be accepted
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ReplyDeleteYour case number is 101000445031
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If you read the full document that was sent to the PM Mrs May that on the 29th March we left the EU and that any more negotiations with Brexit or any extensions will be NIL and VOID >>>>
https://twitter.com/RobinTilbrook?fbclid=IwAR3S60lIkeDpDEiVqPd9THiEJTgZrQRM9ovErObQZ8mUCrk3j9bMFCRPQ5w
Please read this>>>>
https://robintilbrook.blogspot.com/2019/03/english-democrats-bring-case-to-get.html
please can you look at this as I do not know if you know about what is going on back in the UK.
Please reply back if you can and let us know your findings.
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That just about does it now the EU are going to tell Maybot that We must not let a Brexit suppting MP be Prime Minister .Why does she and our Government let the EU make these demands on a Sovereign Country .This is just a taste of the future if we stay.Time for another GE .
ReplyDeleteRobin, please provide regular updates so that we can keep generating fresh details to post on social media and request donations, support and wider sharing.
ReplyDeleteUntil the High Court gives a Listing date for the actual Hearing, stating the Court chambers, date and time etc, then there is not really much updating.
DeleteWhat is important is to inform and ask as many as possible to support and if they are able to Donate, as if the Application for the Judicial Review is for whatever reason denied, then there is only 7 days for which to Lodge and File the Appeal and costs will again be high.
On the face of the Judicial Challenge and its points of law this should not arise, but given that there is more of a suspicion as to if the Judiciary is totally independent then having continuing support for ongoing costs any Appeal helps tremendously for which all supporters are grateful.
Hi Robin and thank you for your efforts so far. Is there a time limit on receiving a response from the Government?
ReplyDeleteUsually 7 days for an Application.
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Latest on twitter: The Government's Legal Department have confirmed that they will respond to our JR case (that the UK has left the EU on the 29.3.19) before the 17th April.
ReplyDeleteCan we not see their response ?
DeleteThank you for your efforts Robin and good luck for all of us
ReplyDeleteMay has purposefully misled Parliament and the country and materially misdescribed the effect of the WA as delivering Brexit.
ReplyDeleteShe is just another facet of the biologically-driven hate evidenced here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43a7yS0zhWc
Nicely put, Τhank you.
ReplyDeleteWE shall overcome Robin - thank you for having the the guts to bring this to court. 17.4 million should be donating to bring this about. You have my contribution.
ReplyDeletethank you for giving me hope I am praying that you are successful.
ReplyDeleteso that remoaner miller has done us favour,of well come back to bite her arse
ReplyDeleteRobin, Is Bill Cash supporting your case, at least he seems to be on a parallel track? I am wondering why it's taking the Government so long to reply. I hope they are worried. Best
ReplyDeleteThis is the way forward. Farage is sopping up the discontent and harnessing it with a stall tactic. Someday, someday. No, leave means leave NOW.
ReplyDeleteThere are those who say it is a waste of time bringing a case because the judges have been politicised....we shall see. To do nothing is foolish. Of course we must challenge. This is the most awful situation we have been in as a country for many long decades.
ReplyDeleteI have only just learned of the current court case, as I was led to believe that Sir Bill Cash was taking it to court. Congratulations to Robin, you have my support and 25 English pounds ( not euros ). Any further updates?
ReplyDeleteI am interested to know what would happen if a Leaver is next PM and refuses to defend against your case!
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