ENGLAND says YES to Scottish Independence!
Here is the text of our press release:-The 30th May saw the start of the Scottish Referendum in earnest.
The English Democrats, England’s only nationalist Party, supports the YES campaign for Scotland to vote for Independence.
Constitutionally – A YES vote will lead to the dissolution of the United Kingdom of Great Britain this will therefore lead to Independence for England - Good news for English Nationalists!
EU – Both Scotland and England will be New or “Successor” states in International Law and so, as Senor Barroso recently confirmed, they will both be automatically outside the EU – Good news for Eurosceptics!
Barnett Formula – The House of Lords reported in 2009 that the subsidy from English Taxpayers to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland was £49 billion per year. This will cease with the Dissolution of the UK - Good news for English Taxpayers!
UK Debt - The British Government is one of the most profligate and spendthrift institutions on earth and has run up debts of well over £1 trillion and is still increasing even that stupendous figure by over £100 billion a year in “deficit”. This £1 billion per week (52 billion a year) is now bleeding England white. Dissolution of the UK means that financially our New Nation States will not be required to take on the British Government’s debts - Good news for our grandchildren!
UN Security Council – The Dissolution of the UK will mean that our New Nation States will not automatically have the British position on the UN Security Council and so our politicians won’t be so easily diverted from doing their duty to look after the interests of our Nation and People by the glittering prospects of strutting about “punching above our weight on the world stage” – which has cost us over £29 billion in our strategic failures in Iran and Afghanistan. Good news for all who long for us to mind our own business and to look after England’s interests! (the real "Little Englanders"?)
Robin Tilbrook, the Chairman of the English Democrats said:- “Scottish Independence offers a terrific opportunity not only for Scotland but also for England to Reboot or Restore good sense and good order for our Nation and to wipe away the terrible effects of years of British Government incompetence, irresponsibility and profligacy!”
Robin Tilbrook
Chairman,
The English Democrats
So if this happens what happens to pensioners living outside the EU whose pension gets no increases because we live outside the EU
ReplyDeleteSurely, that would be a decision for the government of sovereign England
DeleteShould the Scots vote "Yes", the Brits will want to retain what's left and create some sort of "New UK" and probably have contingency plans already in place. Would that not be the height of presumptuousness? Would they even have any kind of mandate to do so? Our own independence referendum could be closer that we thought!
ReplyDeleteClive,
Weston-super-Mare.
There has been no official conversation in England about Scottish independence, Clive, (I.E nobody has consulted us on what we would like to happen post independence) which leads me to think, as you have alluded to, the British have already worked out the plan. I'm convinced that England will be the last colony of the British. As we were the first to fight them, we will also be the last. The Cuckoos will be in our nest to the end.
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Clive is right, England will still be stuck with Wales and Northern Ireland., plus all those residual overseas territories.
ReplyDeleteNorthern Ireland can be easily settled by dividing it between Ireland and Scotland, but Wales and the rest pose something of a dilemma.
The most straight forward way around it would be English independence, leaving "Britain" as Wales, Scotland, and all those dependences. ('Great Britain is a geographical definition', while "Britain" refers either to the UK or, historically, to the British Empire)
There are countries which sit in the United Nations with smaller populations than that of Wales. The population of Iceland is much smaller and the populations of the Baltic states are about the same as that of Wales. So, Wales could also go its own way. The overseas dependencies would remain an embarrassment
DeleteThe idea of Ulster being divided between the Irish Republic and Scotland is an interesting one. I have a theory that Ulstermen always fell out with the rest of Dark Age Ireland and were then booted out and made their way to Argyle and took the Scots and Gaelic to the Pictish lands to the north of Hadrian's Wall.
DeleteUnfortunately, they did not stay put but returned in the time of Elizabeth the First as protestants to carry on the old feud.
Belfast would be a bit of a problem - a bit like Brussels split between the Flemish and the Walloons. Are you suggesting that the Republicans move to the south of Ulster and are absorbed into Eire whilst the Unionists move to the north and linked hands across the sea with Galloway? This is all beginning to sound like pan Celticism. Why not the West Wales that is Cornwall joining Cymru to the north or Brittany to the South. That should keep them all happy.
Meanwhile, the European Union is telling us that the way for Britain to solve the housing bubble created by the kleptocratic bankers with the help of criminal oligarchs from China, Russia and India is to build more houses. At a UKIP meeting Paul Nuttall said that the European Commission is at constant prey to lobbying by big business. That would be the banks and big business and obviously developers who are profiting massively from the Marxist totalitarian oligarchy that is the EU. Even though England is now one of the most densely populated countries in the world the EU Commission and their kleptocratic lobbyists are bent on sending the bulk of East Europeans westwards even if England has no longer a square inch of countryside left and will never ever be able to grow enough food to feed itself when the Chinese collar all the world's food.
What is not covered by houses will be covered by roads and high speed railway lines. I see that the Church of England is up in arms because it appears that HS2 is to slice through churchyards, probably shaking the foundations of our ancient churches. But to the Marxists and their oligarchic puppet masters our history, our culture, our people mean nothing. Money and ideology are everything. I was interested to discover that there are no longer enough advisors in America to tell their braindead politicians about the history of the Ukraine. That is because Americans, as we are, are now so badly educated and European history is no longer taught to its own peoples as it is deemed to be eurocentric in Marxist terms. Those who are younger than 50 here now no longer have any feeling for our history or culture and this is deliberate. This is why they can take old houses, rip them apart and turn them into New York style loft living. The Marxists and Turbo capitalism have won.
Ulster is naturally divided by the the Bann and Lough Neagh, with the centres of Derry and Belfast - Derry's hinterland including much of the Republic. There is a population shift of Irish moving west and Scots moving east across the province. Belfast would no doubt have RC and Protestant areas much like Glasgow. The east would replicate the Earldom of Ulster (Down and Antrim - Dalriada).
DeleteScots Presbyterians were settled in the escheated counties of Fermanagh and Tyrone as tenants of the English CofE planters, and they sublet to the RC Irish.
In earlier times it was easier to cross between the earldom and Scotland, than betwen the earldom and the rest of the island, across bogs and mountains
John Redwood MP (or MUKP), is 'thinking of England' in his blog today and will be posting the text of his speech in the Commons yesterday.
ReplyDeleteIt is good to know that Mr Redwood is "thinking of England". Perhaps he should be thinking of joining the English Democrats party.
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