It has been interesting, in the last couple of weeks or so, to see England’s Brit Nat enemies carrying on with other angles of trying to undermine the unitary sense of English National Identity.
First we had the story that “Visit Cornwall” had banned the mention of England or that Cornwall is a county not a country. (click here for this story >>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/9461394/Visit-Cornwall-bans-references-to-England.html).
Also, as part of the Olympic hype, we have been repeatedly told that if Yorkshire was a country then it would have got more gold medals than Australia (click here for this story >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2184030/Olympics-2012-If-Yorkshire-country-higher-medal-table-SA-Japan-Australia.html).
Whilst the Yorkshire gag is a more humorous point, nevertheless anyone that puts forward either idea at all seriously needs to be told - in no uncertain terms - that both Cornwall and Yorkshire are traditional counties within the oldest nation state on earth – England!
Interestingly an antidote to the Team GB hype came from Peter Hitchens who points out that"If you believe that Olympic glory makes a nation great, just remember the USSR"! (click here for this story >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2187046/If-believe-Olympic-glory-makes-nation-great-just-remember-USSR.html).
Even more startlingly contrary to the Team GB mythologising is Robert Henderson's analysis which shows that:- "The picture is clear: England would suffer no disadvantage and might well gain by appearing as an independent team: Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland would be reduced, at best, to the status of a Norway or Slovenia." (click here for this story >>> http://englandcalling.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/the-olympics-england-and-the-celtic-fringe/).
So the battle goes on. Ideas from anyone on how to graphically demonstrate a picture of England’s unity would be very welcome! Any suggestions please?
Cornwall is a country!
ReplyDeleteIndeed!
DeleteIf it were it would be very very poor - and full of Englishmen.
DeleteIt is poor and it is full of Englishmen. Cornwall is an integral part of England in the same way that the Highlands and Islands are integral parts of Scotland
DeleteIt is poor and filling up with English immigrants.
DeleteWhat way would that be? Enlighten us!
Cornwall is Cornwall as Scotland is Scotland. Don't forget up to Henry VIII monarchs swore allegiance to England, Scotland, Wales, Cornwall and Wales!
DeleteGRASP THE NETTLE ?
DeleteSTOP VOTING FOR THE THREE MAIN PARTY'S, GIVE SOME ONE ELSE A CHANCE.
Phony Tony Blair, Brown the Clown, Call me Dave-Cameron, and From Russia with love Clegg, are all cast in the same mold.
All four are only interested in the money, and swanning around Europe. The Great British Public are too nice, and line up at the polling stations LIKE RABBITS IN THE HEADLIGHTS.
Get real? if you want change Vote For Change.
GRASP THE NETTLE ?
DeleteSTOP VOTING FOR THE THREE MAIN PARTY'S - IF YOU WANT CHANGE - MAKE A CHANGE.
Phony Tony Blair, Brown the Clown, Call me Dave Cameron, and From Russia with Love Clegg, are all cast in the same mold.
Only interested in the money and swanning round Europe.
The Problem is the Brits are too nice ? They Line up at the polling stations LIKE RABBITS IN THE HEADLIGHTS.
The four Musk rats Blair-Brown-Cameron-Clegg are not interested in you or me, only interested in going down in history as the four F--- ups.
What about Berwick on Tweed?
DeleteThank god no one listens to you.
ReplyDeletePresumably, you are referring to Londheart's contribution. Unfortunately, too many are. Most Cornish nats are incomers with no family connection to the county. They have imposed the patron saint of miners St Piran and his miner's flag. St Michael is the couny's patron saint and his flag is a blue cross on a white flag; not the white cross on a black flag of St Piran which is promoted as the "national" flag of Cornwall
DeleteSt Michael was a Norman saint cult not a british Celtic one anyway. No-one has imposed anything .. it is St Piran's cross, patron saint of tin-miners, that has been adopted by many Cornish in Cornwall and around the world at the national flag (without inverted commas). If you want to venerate St Michael, bust a gut!
DeleteBlue cross on a white flag? That's the flag of the Anglican Church in Wales
DeleteThere are Ukip and the BNP on one side and the Lib Dem and Cameron Tories on the other. All out to remove the name of England from the map.
ReplyDeleteThank God for the English Democrats speaking for England, no-one else is.
Yes they are! The Englishnationalist Party. or have they now disbanded.
Deleteweren't they absorbed by the English Democrats?
DeleteWhat about self-determination? Surely it is up to residents which country they are? (This would avoid much argey-bargey worldwide). It's not for minority political parties to determine. England will shrink when towns and villages face up to the costs of elder care and university education.
ReplyDeleteAll the parties are minorities.
DeleteWhat about self-determination for Cornwall, rather that ED decreeing that they msut be part of England.
Yes, I agree with self-determination, my self-determination is that Cornwall is part of England and Monmouthshire is part of England. (That is just for ‘hors d’oeuvres’) Oh yes my home is in lovely enriched, vibrant, South London.
DeleteThat isn't self-determination, that is self-delusion.
DeleteIt is difficult to explain to people living in places like St Ives or Penzance how many sleepless nights one has over the guilt associated with having such an overload of enrichment and diversity and vibrancy such as we have in South London. Whereas people in in other parts of the UK have so little. It is grossly inequitable.
DeleteSurely Cornwall with its miles of craggy coastline is the nearest we have in this country to Somalia, with its miles of craggy coastline. I think the hospitable Cornish people would react with open arms to the knowledge that large Somali communities could be set up in St Ives and Penzance so forth with the Somali familes out of London.
No please do not thank me for this idea, It is so little. but you have no idea how happy it would make an ordinary person like me to know that some of the richness and diversity and vibrancy of South London was being shared out with people like the Cornish who are Celts and therefore devoid of the racial prejudice that still sadly afflicts so many English in this modern age.
Those who are attempting to regionalise England are bigoted, Anti English Racists and the enemy, treat them as such. they have no mandate and are anglophobic.
ReplyDeleteI must to admit to having some sympathy with the Cornish as they do have a distinctly Celtic identity. The majority of their place names are Celtic as opposed to Ango-Saxon. However, whilst they cannot obviously stand alone as a country I think they should be allowed to push their own identity. Being Celtic - the Saxons named the county West Wales and its name means the horn of the Welsh or foreigners to distinguish them from the English - they will undoubtedly get the recognition the English won't. If your Celtic that's fine by the British government but if you are English that's not. Too many Scots involved I suppose. A marvellous article by Peter Hitchens. He is right that Blair wanted to wipe out all our history prior to 1948 and turn us into a multi-ethnic new country like the USA. He did without doubt hate our monarchy and although he loves being an RC as he loves the bells and smells theatre of it - and he is just a second-rate actor - would happily ditch Christianity here in the name of international socialism. The Left wants to obliterate Christianity and now they are ditching the Jews in the name of Islam which they believe will finish off European Christian Civilisation and the white race for good. They should beware. When Islam has triumphed, they will be ditched as useful idiots as well. England has been subjected to a smash and grab raid. The Marxists want to smash the country, its people and its culture and dump them in the dustbin and the globalizers are out to grab every penny they can and are feeding like vultures off its dying corpse.
ReplyDeleteSimon James showed that the insular Celts are an 18th century invention - 'The Myth of the Atlantic Celts' by Dr Simon James
Delete'The Celtic Nations, 1961- 2011, a Sea Change? Some personal views', by Professor Peter Beresford Ellis: Extract - "let me explained what is meant by Celtic. In the Celtic League it is meant to describe one of six historic nationalities which spoke a Celtic language until modern historical times. It’s that simple. As Professor Eoin Mac Neill pointed out nearly a century ago – there is no such thing as a Celtic race; any more than there is a Latin race, a Teutonic race, nor a Slavic race. We are all branches of the Indo-Europeans linguistic family – so race is largely a delusion. The only accurate way to define Celtic is by language and attendant culture. A Celt is simply one who speaks, or is known to have spoken within the modern historical period, a Celtic language".
DeleteDear Robin
ReplyDeletethe Welsh lament about what the English did to them, but do not lament that they pushed out the Celts who were already here! the English was a conglomerate of different people from across mainly Northern Europe trying to escape Attila `the Hun` with his devistating (excuse spelling)army
which destroyed all in its path, anyway the Romans brought us over either in its army,or as civilians and they destroyed most of the British way of life to become Romano-Britsh, it was the Picts who defied them and some of the northern British.
It was there preverbial in fighting which led to there downfall and they were warned by one of their Christian bishops, to no avial, the exact same happened to the English,and the vikings invaded up in Northumberland.
Cornwall was not invaded in a bloody way like was Devon,
as Christianity now ruled thought and action, it was known as west Wales and had links with Wales and Brittany (Land of the Britains).
Our downfall for all of us was the Norman invasion, it has been trying ever since to try and legalise this, but no avail, it was done in a cold bloody way for profit and its sponsors, spiritually the church of Rome and financially the Jews will tell you otherwise even today, hence things like team G B, they must crush any sort of independance because they would be seen in their true light.
As an Englishman I welcome independence for the four different countries of the United Kingdom, but this must be a reponsible one of working together,
The only thing is the English have been so devastated by centuries of working under the yoke, they look more like a defeated people than one that could actually stand on their own two feet and dictate its own future, I`am sorry to say, but I for one will continue to try and convince the English people like others, they could do it, if they have the `Balls`!
regards
Stephen Bennett
Your account of the prehistoric past is at variance with the genetic history studies published over the pat 20 years. All of the British peoples are descended from Old Stone Age hunter gatherers who migrated from Northern Spain and the Balkans as the Ice Age came to an end. There were no Celts to push out.
Delete"There were no Celts to push out". Quite right, there weren't
DeleteQuite, those damned antiquarians in the eighteenth century simply classified all the bits and pieces of population on the edge of Europe as Celts irrespective of provenance and not taking into account that languages move around. Sadly no one thought to try and preserve a record of the Pictish language even though there may have been a few people speaking Pictish right up to the middle ages. Pictish was not a Celtic language. They were there before the Celtic speakers. Presumably the Picts replaced the people who were already living there and speaking some infinitely unknowable Stone Age language.
Delete1. Pictish was a Celtic language, in fact a variation of Brythonic, 2. The Celtic speakers were the people of britain for at least 1,000 years prior to 1AD and there is not evidence of any invasions. Do keep up with latest worl-wide scholarship, not the Anglo-centric Time Team school of the late 1990s.
DeleteA final comment from this fellow,
DeletePlease do not mock television, which is the source of all learning and knowledge available to us nowadays.
A quick review of Pictish on ‘Wikipedia’ which as we all know is one hundred per cent truthful and accurate implies that Pictish was possibly a non indo-European language maybe similar to Basque, but then maybe not. But certainly of non Indo-European origin, and certainly not of Celtic origin. The Celts were late arrivals in Europe if one understands correctly.
In fact the name ‘prydain’ which is how the name Britain came about, is propably Pictish and was subsequently adopted by the Greeks and Latins and changed to the name Britain. The real meaning is apparently unknown. This anti-Pictish attitude strikes one as being founded in a form of Celtic chauvism which has no place in rich ethnic diversity and vibrance of modern Britain.
Cornwall a county not a country, wish-full thinking by a few dreamers.Made-up language,The original which died out centuries ago can never be replaced as no-one is alive to speak it and spell it.As regards the St Piran Flag wich originates from Ireland an Irish Saint( while St Patrick was Anglo-Saxon English. The Black and white flag w bought to cornwall by German miners in the 15th century the black being the granite and the white being minerals tin,silver copper.
ReplyDeleteThe Flag of Cornwall is the Flag of St Michael as flown on Saint Michaels Mount off Penzance a White background with a Red very Cross familar. lol.
Talk about wishfull thinking, dreamers, and making things up - almost your entire post is a testament to those things!
DeleteCornwall is one of the ancient nations of britain, ruled as a Duchy, administered as a Unitary Authority .. no county comes into it!
What utter drivel! Really, I'm amazed you can even type on a keyboard...
DeleteThe patron saint of Cornwall is Saint Michael. If the flag flown from St Michael's Mount is a red cross on a white flag, then that is the flag of Cornwall; not the miners' black and white flag dedicated to St Piran, who is the patron saint of miners; not of Cornwall.
DeleteWhy would the flying of a flag from a private estate make it the flag of Cornwall, and St Michael the only patron saint of Cornwall?
DeletePeter Hitchens' reference to the multicultural olympics, the lionisation of Doreen Lawrence et al makes me wonder how the re-opening of the investigation into the murder during the first Tottenham riots of PC Blakelock will play out. If the culprits are finally found and punished then can we expect to see his widow accorded the same heroic status as Doreen Lawrence. From a source in London at the time I understand the the unfortunate pc was castrated. Whether this was whilst he was still alive or not is unclear. It sounds more like Soweto than Tottenham but then I wonder why? Doubtless, PC Blakelock and his met police colleagues will ultimately be judged to be responsible for his fate, especially by the BBC.
ReplyDeleteWhat legal/historical evidence do you have that county not a country? I don't mean a copy of a map as anyone could draw a map. I'll draw you one leading to treasure if you like, doesn't mean there will be any treasure when you get to the final destination.
ReplyDeleteWhen was Cornwall taken over? by who? Which war? where's the legal paper work that documents the event.
I'm not interested in peoples opinions or what is commonly accepted I want to know the facts!
Cornwall (the rump of the Kingdom of Devon) was annexed by Athelstan about 830 AD
DeleteLocation of this much overlooked Annexation document please. It will make great reading as Athelstan wasn't born until 893AD.
DeleteKernow a'gas dynergh - welcome to Cornwall.
Delete‘The borders of Cornwall have been set for a 1,000 years, since a treaty in 936AD between King Athelstan and King Hywel of Cornwall.
Robin - here's a link to a rather rough and ready, highly experimental video clip I created a few months ago in which I attempt to graphically demonstrate England's unity:
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/6FefHTfuqm4
The regionalisation of the West Midlands, at least, is already underway. First the fire and ambulance services, next the police service etc, and before we know it will be a 'fait accompli'.
ReplyDeleteWhat could not be achieved at the ballot box is being thrust upon us in a disgustingly covert way and we shall be unable to then reverse the situation.
However, writing useless letters like this will do no good whatsoever. Civil unrest, only, will get us a
hearing
This letter is not useless. How else are the English people to be alerted to the dangers of regionalisation as a precursor of 'Europe of the Regions' with the name of England erased?
DeleteEngland's unity is a peculiar thing. We are a different bunch in class and accent and the like.
ReplyDeleteA good example of our unity was shown in adversity last night on bbc three. The 'Our War' series which has had some exellent troop footage showing British; in this case predominantly English soldiers from the Duke of Lancaster's Regiment, nick named ' The Lions of England ', on a very dangerous and costly mission in Afghanistan. One squaddie put it well when he observed that the lads, from the north west, and with fierce local rivalries put it behind them for their regiment and country (paraphrase).
Indeed after the senior officer was mortally wounded by one of those cowardly ieds, he called for a private soldier whom he had known I believe from a previous tour to give him comfort and support in extremis. Captain Griffith, the son of a serving brigadier was brother to a fellow Englishman whom socially and educationally was entirely different, nuff said.
I have just read Daniel Hannan's essay 'A Doomed Marriage: Britain and Europe'. A couple of hours, couldn't put it down. I urge you to read it too. I don't need convincing that we should be out of the EU, having voted 'NO' in 1975, but it is heartening. It should have the widest possible circulation, buy it, tell your friends, show it to those who think we need the EU. It's only 110 pages. Don't say because it's written by a Tory therefore I don't want to read it, that would be childish.
ReplyDeleteHe still likes sucking on that tit though, Mr Hannan. He is a good egg and writes well about his position. In particular last week in the DM he pointed out clearly in another EU essay that the fallacy of post modern democracy could be understood by looking at the greek meaning of the words. Demos being the people and kratos the state. The demos or people have to be those which one could identify with, rather than any one lumped together in the kratos. Without the identification, the kratos merely imposes its will through bribery of diiferent groups and institutions that ensure the survival of the state and without the consent of the people.
DeleteThat piece of etymology shows that multiculturalism cannot lie with democracy. It is not possible without it being re defined, or brainwashing a new identity to cover all colurs ,creeds and cultures or more properly consigned to the dustbin as the careworn deception it is.
The actual fragmentation of Europe may be about to begin and in an unlikely place. The muslim Oslo suburb of Groeland is poised to declare itself an Islamic state. Tower Hamlets, Luton, Part of Brussels, Part of Rotterdam, Marseilles could follow. The biggy would of course be Bradford to Blackburn. Norway seems an unlikely place to erupt but then nobody expected Anders Breivik. If the Norwegian government refuses then will Groenland declare UDI and more importantly will the silent Norwegian sheep finally start bleating?
DeleteSomebody suggested that something should be produced to show England's unity. At that moment Nelson's signal sent at the Battle of Trafalgar - hope I got that right - i.e. England expects that every man this day will do his duty, came to mind. England expects that every Englishman, whether from Devon glorious Devon, Sussex by the sea, the Fens of Lincolnshire, the Fells of the Lakes or the Wolds of Yorkshire or the Forest of Arden. In the 1930s so many songs were written extoling the beauty of various parts of England. The English are still a conquered people and that is the problem and how to get them out of that mindset. I look at them and I wonder what they are thinking. Can't they see that the writing is on the wall and that they are earmarked for the history books. It seems as if the light has been well and truly switched off in there. Anyhow, Nelson on the Victory with a map of the whole of England behind and an approaching fleet of Marxists, Bankers and EU commissioners, all the enemies of England would do. With the Victory's cannons about to blow them all to smithereens hopefully.
ReplyDeleteThe brainwashing and manipulation have been so successful that the one worlders must now be sensing victory. A bill board in our local paper said, "racist thug beaten up by his victim". We can only assume that the racist thug was an indigenous member of the population and the victim was not. No other interpretation would be allowed. We are now in true Marxist days as in the old communist days of Eastern Europe. If the billboard there then had read "enemy of the state is jailed" you would know that the perpetrator was not a communist. I am waiting for the Guardian healdine that reads, "Racist murderers are given life" when the castrators and murderers of PC Blakelock are put behind bars but it will be a long time before hell freezes over. It will probably read,"Victims of the racist met unjustly jailed".
ReplyDeleteAn interesting development on that theme occured in the Olympics. A man was arrested for not smiling during the cycling road race. In fact he had a medical condition.
DeleteWhat on earth possessed the policeman to think he had the right to arrest someone for not 'enjoying himself'. Since when has it been against the law to not smile.
That comment about not smiling reminds me of the Nazi or Communist exhortation, "You will enjoy yourselves", whether you want to or not. Tony Hawkes was on Radio 3 this morning talking about the film he made in Moldova. He said that, even though the communist era is over there, Moldovans are still silent in public as they were so used in communist days to being afraid of making an unguarded comment that could get them arrested once reported back to the authorities. Aren't we all here now with regard to Marxist Multicultural Fascism? Look what happened to Emma West. Even if you whispered to a friend that you and he or she were the only English on the bus, one of the thought police would have you filmed on a mobile phone, on youtube and up before the beak in no time at all. Incidentally, youtube has pulled footage of rioting Africans in Mallorca as being hate speech but shows rioting muslims in India. It will also show Prince Harry with no clothes on. This goes to show that big brother punishes any criticism of the multiculturalisation of white countries and only white countries as the greatest crime of all and in need of total supression, if not a visit from the stasi. 1984 here we are. I see the newsreaders on the Beeb today had to put special emphasis on the "racist" murderers of Stephen Lawrence. They must love saying it for they will never get the chance when the victim is an indigenous English person.
ReplyDeleteI've heard some muslims actually believe that the Stephen Lawrence murderers were actually, Black, and not white as reported. Apparently the main witness knew the Black attackers but were allegedly threatened with death if they reported them to the Met Police. So this is why the real murderers were (probably) never found, because the witnesses failed to provide the truth. This in turn led to accusations of racism and incompetence in the Met when in fact it was all down to false testimony on the part of witnesses. So a murder may not have been racist at all but all down to gang warfare within the black community, then use the 'race' card when the murders are not found.
DeleteWitesses seldom tell the truth particularly if they receive death threats from the real killers. This avenue needs consideration and I am sure one day the real truth will come out. The evidence against the convicted killers is weak because of the cross contamination of evidence. Why keep the defandant's clothes in the same bag as Stephen Lawrence's clothes? Anyone with a bit of commonsense can see what will happen over time. The witnesses failed to identify the defandants as the killers.
francis
To go back to the Cornwall letters. The idea of being seperate from England is down to nurture. To think that a small part of great Britain with a small population is intent of calling itself a Country!This may be good for tourism but to help the anti-English establishment it is a poor excuse. If people in Cornwall want to say they are a seperate race from the English, then they should take a DNA test to show how many of them are of a different stock. This would not include Incomers whio could have come from anywhere in the world. As for Cornwall being a Duchy ok but so is Lancaster yet it doesn't try and call itself a country. I hope these little Cornwallers will thing of the bigger picture and join in with the rest of Englands fight against destruction.
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